I'm curious what your relationship with abortion is. Do you know anyone who has had one or even considered one? People aren't waking up and casually deciding "well, I guess I'm going to go kill a baby today!". Every single one is a complex decision weighing the risks and benefits of everyone involved. Ignoring tens of thousands of people suffering through what is one of the most difficult emotional events I can imagine and reducing it to a game of numbers doesn't seem fair.
I think one of the problems is women who die because they have a miscarriage and can't get medical support. This is something completely avoidable, but the laws are catching these people in the crossfire.
You're obviously looking for a reaction by using the phrase "a damn good trade" when referring to dead women. That is very weird.
Why not a Compromise? A more flexible Abortion Ban, but free Morning after Pill and Condoms. Or highly subsidized BirthControl and Classes with the Topic prevention. Target would be smaller number of Abortion because smaler number of Tennie prec. Please overlook my Bad english.
Yet another ignorant fool thinks he knows better than scientific consensus...
Life doesn't begin at conception, you dunce. You can stop say an abortion is equal to "saving babies" anytime now. That is a ridiculous untruth.
Oh look another disgusting take on reducing women to bargaining chips while also neglecting to acknowledge that infant mortality is on the rise.
Shame on you OP.
Truly disgusting that you think any women dying is acceptable, let alone a "damn good trade".
Heinous to use someone’s tragic image and story beside your headline.
Also, "just" 3 deaths we know of. If you have read literally anything about abortions pre-Roe, I guarantee you that you're potentially missing at least one and maybe 2 zeros behind that. This also doesn't account for women who have been irreversibly harmed from attempting to access or perform off-the-books abortion care, or those who have to carry to term a child when pregnancy might harm them.
Also, "only" 3 deaths is still a tragedy. Those people had families. They had friends, coworkers, and lives. At least one of them was literally still a child. Trying to play a numbers game between people dead because of a law and the number of "babies saved" is ghoulish behavior.
Well it's literally impossible (without being evil) to argue against the moral principal that killing babies is bad. That's because killing babies is bad.
So according to this new baby accounting morality, the hamas attack on Israel killed only 37 children, 2 of which were babies. So that's good. But according to oxfam, more than 11,000 children were killed by Israeli military in the last year, that's bad. Of course many women were killed also, likely some pregnant ones, that's bad.
According to UNICEF, 2000 children have been killed in Ukraine, that's bad. I can't find any record or report of Ukraininan military killing any Russian children, so that's good.
So I'd like to see as much effort put into reducing the deaths of Palestinian babies and Ukrainian babies instead of encouraging those baby murdering israelis and baby murdering ruzzians.
Edit: Oh, nobody agrees with me? Huh. Maybe it never was about the babies, but about control, subjugation and punishment.
Edit 2: Ah so someone does agree with me. It's pretty clear, from a strictly anti-child-killing standpoint who the good guys and bad guys are: hamas and Ukraine are the good guys, Israel and ruzzia are the bad guys.
Interestingly, abortion has been legal in Israel since 1977, but but under Palestinian law, abortion is illegal. So why support the baby killers and supply bombs to be dropped on the baby protectors?
I can't wait for a portion of these 50k babies to be blamed for increase in crime, drug use and poverty.
And all of those babies are in loving caring homes that can afford to take care of them? None of the families were forced to keep them?
y’all are really doing a lot to further the divide between parties in the US by playing these ridiculous characters.
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