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Privacy is Power (sh.itjust.works)
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[-] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

I have nothing to hide: takes lock off front door, removes pin from phone, tells everyone who asks pin to debit card, accepts all cookies automatically, fills out invasive surveys for vouchers.

[-] Toinsane2b@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Privacy.. who gave you that private info in the first place?

Is it your bank account # or the banks? Is it your ss# or the governments Is it your email address or Google's?

[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago

If you give your data to companies, they'll sell it to the government, circumventing legal processes that are supposed to protect against warrantless spying.

[-] stinky@redlemmy.com 23 points 18 hours ago

"I want convenience and I have nothing to hide, so I'm willing to give my data away."

Ok, but other people aren't.

Your vote affects other people.

It's great that your needs are met but people other than you will be hurt by this.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 10 points 16 hours ago

This is one of my greatest issues with my fellow citizens. They really don’t care about others, not even a little bit, when taken as a whole.

[-] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 35 points 21 hours ago

You guys need to learn what a meme is.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago

A meme is a thing thats shared, so this becomes a meme when it’s posted to share with others.

The hell do YOU think a meme is?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 22 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

The hell do YOU think a meme is?

This, and exclusively this:

(I do not personally agree)

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 16 hours ago

Nah, this is the only true type of meme

[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago

A continuously adapted and shaped image, text or video that gets shared relentlessly.

If something keeps getting shared unchanged, I wouldn't actually consider it a meme, only if it's altered. Otherwise I would just call it a viral post or video or something.

Actually, it's pretty hard to define a meme now that I try to think about it...

[-] Joker@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago
[-] Strobelt@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

I think they were referring to this community being called microblog memes and this post kinda not being a meme per se

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Memes and jokes should have a basis in reality or they'll get shit on for being dumb. I know what a meme is. This was shit 🤷‍♂️

If I post shitty right wing memes do I get a free pass or does it end up in the right can't meme?

[-] obinice@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Do you think people wanting privacy is somehow a political stance? Even more so, a... leftist political stance?

Do tories not mind being spied on by their everything providers? xD

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago

Meh. Pseudo-wisdom.

The wealthy rule with or without your information. They did just fine before the advent of scraping every data point about you off the internet, your phone, or card swipe. Your info today is just another datapoint in some company’s portfolio to be bought and sold.

Authoritarian governments get that way to protect wealth and power. It’s not your personal information that matters as much as what you say that matters. If you cannot be safe in expressing dissent and keep that private, then you’ve lost.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

Information is an obscenely valuable resource and information asymmetry decides wars.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, tactical information. Locations of troops, resources, roads, bridges, opposition location, etc etc.

Not what I bought at the store.

Let’s not conflate the two.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

All information is tactical information. Every bit of additional information strengthens control.

Knowing what every citizen buys from the store is an authoritarian government's wet dream.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Stop changing the subject to make yourself right.

You said “war” first, then you changed to “authoritarian governments.”

Pick one.

Don’t double down on your absolutist answer.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 1 points 55 seconds ago

War is simply the most direct example. All information is power.

It's all identical. You're trying to distinguish between the exact same thing. Corporations aren't spending billions of dollars to spy on you because that information is worthless.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The first part is true. Why would you want corporations knowing about you. But the government part doesn't make sense. Why should your data be kept from the government? The government is the one organization I trust with my data because they hold records on every single citizen and have no monetary incentive to sell or misuse it.

My data in this case being stuff like Name, Address, workplace, family, medical history, employment history, friends.

Stuff I wouldn't want the government knowing would be my hobbies, my chatlogs, my search history. If they want that they should get a warrant.

I'm OK with the government buying/collecting and using stuff like location data if it's anonymized. I understand this stuff is needed to see general trends in the population and plan accordingly.

[-] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 10 points 21 hours ago

What she is talking about is the data the Chinese government collects about its people like where you go when, who you meet, what you buy, what you talk about, who you're friends with, if you are pregnant or not, etc.

[-] huginn@feddit.it 14 points 21 hours ago

Or what the NSA collects about Americans... like where you go when, who you meet, what you buy, what you talk about, who you're friends with, if you are pregnant or not, etc.

[-] Fontasia@feddit.nl 1 points 20 hours ago

It's what decisions are made with that data that's the concern. A lot of "privacy advocates" believe that society can exist with the government not knowing anything about their population. I can't think how:

  • a transport service can operate without knowing where people go and when
  • consumer advocacy can work without knowing what people will buy
  • what needs to be addressed in society without knowing what the issues are
  • what to educate people on unless you find out what they don't know
  • a health service can adapt to the needs of aging populations without good fertility data

You're right, all this data can be used against someone for malicious reasons and like in the China example it's easier to locate dissonance by listening. But evil can be done without data collection, it's impossible to do good without it.

[-] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 1 points 19 hours ago

You don't need personalized data to do those things. You can just count how many people use the bus instead of checking for every person where they are going when and why.

[-] Fontasia@feddit.nl 1 points 16 hours ago

I agree that aggregate data is the best way to improve things for the most number of people, you can't help every single person, but also knowing the edge cases helps you find out things you don't know.

[-] Sabata11792@ani.social 1 points 17 hours ago

The government is the one organization I trust with my data because they hold records on every single citizen and have no monetary incentive to sell or misuse it.

My government buys my raw fucking web traffic from my service provider.

[-] phcorcoran@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

What about when a government decides that you must wear a special armband for being Jewish or Roma or gay?

[-] drunkman@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

always hass been. personal datas are new oil of world

[-] trespasser69@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Privacy is power and by stealing privacy yout get the power.

[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

The thing that is valued the most is convenience or we wouldn't be in this situation

this post was submitted on 03 Dec 2024
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