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Russia's Wagner mercenary group founder, Yevgeny Prigozhin, has said the Kremlin's justifications for invading Ukraine were based on lies.

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[–] tldrbot@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

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The head of Russia's Wagner mercenary group appears to be threatening an armed rebellion against Russia's military leadership, after accusing it of deliberately shelling his forces on Friday. Prigozhin published a shaky video on Friday that showed a shattered group of trees and a burning trench, claiming it was a Wagner camp shelled by Russian troops and alleging many Wagner troops were killed. Gen. Sergey Surovikin, a senior Russian general who has been linked with Prigozhin, gave a video address calling on Wagner fighters to stop their rebellion and turn back. Wagner chief says Russian invasion based on lies The head of Russia's Wagner mercenary group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, said the Kremlin's justifications for its invasion of Ukraine are based on lies, in another extraordinary attack on the country's military and political leadership. Prigozhin lambasted Russia's military leadership for the huge casualties its troops have suffered.


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[–] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago
[–] anthoniix@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

Bro what the fuck is going on right now lmao

[–] Ralphensnitch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

This is even better then Zuck vs Musk. Hopefully it amounts to something.

[–] SlowNPC@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The folks in the Ukraine sublemmy are following this very closely, and say the fighting has started.

https://lemmy.world/post/484743

[–] SoPunny@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There have been unconfirmed videos show a convoy and small arms fire supposedly in Rostov just outside where the Southern Military command is.

https://nitter.net/Stanovaya/status/1672360894515363841#m

https://nitter.net/Stanovaya/status/1672371087005417472#m

This made me laugh

https://nitter.net/bluenicks_99/status/1672402676074643457#m

no JavaScript so have to click to play video

[–] atimholt@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

have to click to play video.

I despise auto-play, even on YouTube.

[–] zalack@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can you point me towards me a brief overview of Rostov, whose territory it's in, and its strategic importance? I've mostly been following the geopolitics of the war and not the actual fronts/troop movements except at a very very high level.

[–] Ftten@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Rostov is In Russia a border city Rostov is east of Mariupol Ukraine. it being a border city strategically it's logistic point, it's very far from the front, a disruption here could potentially assist Ukraine in wearing down points at the front this may sow chaos in Russian command,break morale.

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is crazy. Perhaps a moment of self reflection? I am very interested to see where this goes. Somethings gotta give. I'd feel, in my bones, that I was dying for nothing, if I was a Russian soldier. Then I look around and realize everyone feels the same and we have guns and military equipment. Maybe it'll spark something larger.

[–] SoPunny@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Putins chef be lighting fires allll over Russia.

Hope Ukraine can make hay of the chaos.

[–] Bobo_Palermo@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Yeh, now is the time for the offensive if Wagner pulls back.

[–] TrickyCamel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't imagine another fascist being on the throne helps, is there a positive outcome from this? Maybe it will greatly hinder their war effort?

[–] CoderKat@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think the biggest gain is simply that this guy and likely any other Putin replacement would end the war in Ukraine, because they know it's a waste of lives, money, and reputation. It's hard to be worse than Putin at this point. And heck, even with Putin still on the "throne", it could give Putin the excuse his cowardly ass needs to back out of the war.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

He's not anti Putin, he's anti the Russian military

[–] ScumbagSpruce@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Holy shit. This is big.

[–] tal@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Rob Lee is collecting a number of videos of the situation on Twitter.

https://nitter.net/RALee85/status/1672409506901368833

[–] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Sounds like he's building (or supporting the building of) a case for popular, military backed opposition to the war

[–] niktemadur@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

"Three Day Special Operation, comrade. Nazhdarovia."

[–] tinwhiskers@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

My wild speculation is that Prigozhin marches in with token resistance, arrests Shoigu and reveals to Putin the deceit from the MoD, before taking his place at Putin's side. He's avoided being critical of Putin and says lies from the MoD are the reason for the war. Shoigu is the scapegoat.

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