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[-] macattack@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

More like the Overton Window at work actually.

Biden will likely end up as one of the top 5 most progressive presidents ever. Society expects more from Democrats than they would've previously. There's nothing wrong w/ that, but the argument being presented seems misguided and like both sides nihilism.

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[-] Floon@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Too many commenters here do not understand anything about how any of it works, especially how first past the post voting works. Progressives do not seem to understand that the system has not rejected them, but the voters have.

It is mostly relentless propaganda for the oligarchs that has captured the country. That’s the problem, and it is not fixed by any of the suggestions here.

[-] banshee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Not sure this makes sense. I think the window shifts right as people continue to vote right.

From the Wikipedia article about the Overton window:

The most common misconception is that lawmakers themselves are in the business of shifting the Overton window. That is absolutely false. Lawmakers are actually in the business of detecting where the window is, and then moving to be in accordance with it.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Or we can go directly to the bottom frame like we're gonna do - but go ahead and keep rationalizing why your moral pedestal was too lofty to vote for Kamala.

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[-] Dragon@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

IMO the only way around this problem in the USA is to either (A) get a third party to the point of legitimacy where people will take them seriously be winning seats in the house and senate, and eventually running for the presidency, or (B) win a primary in one of the two major parties. By election day there is nothing to do but vote for the least worst option.

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[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Because yes, "the left" never changes anything, and only goes further right.

(hint: That's not how this works)

Over the decades we've made massive strides in equal rights for various marginalized groups. But sometimes the dance takes a step backwards before moving forward again.

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[-] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Honestly I'm just at the point where I'm sitting back watching this country be torn apart. Everything anyone ever has done is wrong but also maybe it's right and everyone acts like they know which is which. The country is entirely divided when the war within itself kicks off I'll be just on my porch watching because I'm done trying to make heads or tails of this mess.

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