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[-] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago

If you wanna do that, maybe... Go back to 1s style of writing? The original Borderlands has plenty of jokes that worked perfectly without being as constantly in your face as 2.

Goddamn, guys, you did it once already. Remember what you originally set out to make. Just leave the overuse of browns and greys as the primary color pallet back where it belongs.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 6 points 4 days ago

This is exactly why the first Borderlands remains my favorite. Much better humor.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

1 had really good writing. 2 was the clown nose version of 1. Still good in ways, but a lot of what made 1's writing good stayed in 1.

Based on what I remember, anyway. Been awhile.

[-] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago

I feel it was more consistent humor. It did the job of being a reprieve while keeping to the heavier feel of the overall story, something that 2 only really starts accomplishing when Jack stops fucking around, and his sense of humor changes with it.

Pre-Sequel felt like an overall continuation of 2s writing, but 3 absolutely fucked it right out of the gate. It didn't feel like a parody, or poking fun at streamer culture, it felt like being locked in a goddamn room full of them.

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago
[-] PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago

I would have accepted toilet humour with a darker edge, but borderlands won’t be borderlands without it

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It's barely even toilet humor really

[-] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 days ago

Give us that deep toilet humor, like the darkest depths of the sewer where El Chupanibre lives.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Yeah, bl2 aged shockingly well. It was weird and outdated after a few years but these days it's a cultural time capsule. It's fun and silly and feels in many ways like a play on its own time period.

I don't want edgy. I want woke space hicks fighting corporations

[-] DangedIfYouDid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I've been thinking about this more recently after trying to get my partner into BL2 after she saw my friends and I playing through 3. She lasted about an hour and a half into BL2 before she wasn't interested, and in all fairness? It was the same for myself and my friends who'd spent 500+ hours in it previously. Even scooter's nonsense was failing to get any giggles out.

The concensus on 3 is largely on point, but somewhere along the line people decided Jack was a great villain and BL2 was incredible. I can't say I agree, in spite of having a blast when it came out but I think it's fair to credit that to playing with friends. It was just such a huge expansion from BL1s flat story and pushed further with abandoning the brown syndrome BL1 just barely sidestepped. Jack is currently being viewed with rose-tinted lenses, he was always annoying (just not as grating or recently experienced as the Twins) and the humor really does fall flat more than it doesn't.

I'd say you're right that it is a time capsule, and it's not without its charms, as you said, but people are on the bandwagon puffing it up due to nostalgia, frustrations with BL3 (and the movie), and these articles talking about wanting to cut down on the toilet humor.

Edgy won't do it, they need to figure out how to be cleverly dumb rather than in your face aggressively dumb which the Twins and Jack both did.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

That's entirely fair. And if they make a more subtle humor then I'm here for it. I think the real comedic goal should be between 1 and 2. Cutting down on the toilet humor and going darker could mean they're headed in exactly the right place, but my fears are that they're going to overshoot and what I love about the series is that it's willing to be ridiculous and I'm so used to "darker" meaning either bigoted or humorless.

[-] DangedIfYouDid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I fear you're probably correct in how it will play out. Popular culture stuff has been in a vicious cycle of ping-ponging between reactionary extremes for a while now.

That said, I agree with you, it's somewhere between 1 and 2, but I think 1 was carried by breaking the norm at the time, so the humor can't have the same impact it did then due to it being expected now and other franchises jumping on similar humor since.

[-] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 11 points 4 days ago

Maybe try not to have a shit main theme and then butcher the writers work by cutting tons of shit out. After that, you can maybe consider other things.

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