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As quoted from the linked post.

It looks like you’re part of one of our experiments. The logged-in mobile web experience is currently unavailable for a portion of users. To access the site you can log on via desktop, the mobile apps, or wait for the experiment to conclude.

This is separate from the API issue. This will actually BLOCK you from even viewing reddit on your phone without using the official app.

Archive.org link in case the post is removed.

https://web.archive.org/save/https%3A%2F%2Fold.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fhelp%2Fcomments%2F135tly1%2Fhelpdid_reddit_just_destroy_mobile_browser_access%2Fjim40zg%2F

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[–] shellsharks@fedia.io 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jeez. The speed at which I've gone from "man it sucks that Apollo is shutting down but I still really enjoy Reddit and will suffer the first-party client" to "wow, Reddit is really trying to destroy their service and it's probably best I don't invest any more time there" is insane... going to draft up some thoughts and a probable farewell message for my frequented subs and followers there. End of an era.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Stages of grief Speedrun any%

[–] Sintamo@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (36 children)

It's one thing to test a new idea or a UX tweak or similar on a small portion of users - but just turning off a key way to access your service is so just so weird to me. How many of Reddit's decisions at this point are some version of, "hey, how angry do they get? What can we get away with?"

[–] overlordror@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

People need to understand that this is about tracking your eyeballs. Reddit viewed on a webpage does not provide the metadata they want. What metadata does the app provide? Things you wouldn't think about wanting as a human, but the aggregate is very valuable.

Stuff like how long did you watch that video Ad? Where did you click on screen and at what time? What content were you viewing and what course of action did you take to get there? Web viewing only shows the landing page you arrived on reddit from and the exit page that took you away from reddit. Performing these actions in the app provides metadata cookie crumbs like a trail of roach shit to every single thing you've done on reddit in micro activities.

[–] darkkite@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not sure. I've worked at companies using amplitude and hotjar that can record all click event and sessions on web

[–] 0x1C3B00DA@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Users can block those with extensions so the data isn't as reliable

[–] BitOneZero@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (7 children)

That's probably a big part. Web browsers can do ad blocking. Within the official Reddit app that's way more difficult.

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[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some asshole at Deloitte is going to make a ton of money writing case studies about this.

[–] walflour@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And someone from McKinsey & Co. is currently making money from this as a consultant

[–] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Don't worry, PwC will make a ton of money when they're asked to help cut costs after this crashes and burns.

[–] iuseit@iusearchlinux.fyi 5 points 2 years ago

Reddit is officially on a bankruptcy speedrun.

[–] james@lemmy.jamesj999.co.uk 4 points 2 years ago

I can honestly say since Twitter did this I’ve hardly ever used it

[–] BreakNeckJim@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (12 children)

It's unbelievable how's user hostile all of these major site have become. I deleted my 11 year old Reddit account today and while it hurt a little it's important that we send a message and not use Reddit at least until they repeal this bullshit.

[–] FaygoBoozer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're not gonna repeal anything. The only thing that will stop this is by Reddit dying and becoming a part of web history, which is hopefully on its way to happening.

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[–] nick@campfyre.nickwebster.dev 4 points 2 years ago

They've already made the "new" reddit web view unusable for any sub marked NSFW. I feel sorry for the web devs at Reddit that spent all this time making a responsive site that works on mobile, then to be forced to artificially block access to push app usage.

[–] jayrod@lemmy.film 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Dollar-store Elon Musk is going full "fuck you" to redditors.

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[–] yankeebobo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

old.reddit.com isn't going anywhere

-- a spez lie

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[–] theDuesentrieb@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Damn now this is just next level bullshit. I thought that even if I can't use Infinity anymore I can still access reddit through a firefox mobile with adblock and privacy addons to make the ux somewhat bearable.

So..

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[–] M_g@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Honestly this is so absurd it's funny. Peak business brain to think that people in 2023 are willing to download an app and register an account to simply access content.

[–] JGreen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some of the Reddit community is outright hostile to the fediverse and decentralization in general. Apparently the lot of us are too nerdy over here.

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[–] Blerenes@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago
[–] r3nder@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit's unwavering stubbornness to continue spiraling is just plain sad. What a way to go.

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit had so much community favor too. The whole awards thing was born from people wanting support the website. If they really struggle to make money could have rolled out an optional subscription or something with a message that everyone would have fallen for. The incompetence is incredible.

[–] animist@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the natural result of having MBAs make any decision

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[–] Pee_on_tech@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The mobile browsing experience was a huge shitshow anyway. Randomly refreshing webpage, comments never posting or posting 5 times, expanding comments would work sometimes. They actively nuked it to make people use the reddit app. Fuck them

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[–] Manticore@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (10 children)

This... is dumb. Reddit gets traffic from people using it as a secondary search engine to get relevant answers.

Most people on the Internet view it from mobile. Reddit already makes their mobile experience genuinely awful despite this. Blocking it entirely?

The herding to their mobile app is so transparent (and DEFINITELY through stick, not carrot) I'm morbidly curious to see what horrible things they planning to put in their app that they know users will loathe, that requires their alternatives to be zero.

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Never thought that reddit would make so many gaffes to push me to use... bing chatgpt search.

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[–] AbidanYre@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Are they actively trying to make people stop using the site?

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[–] sparky@lemmy.pt 2 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Having already rather violently shot himself in both feet, spez has started aiming for his other body parts.

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[–] hardypart@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow, they're really putting some effort into alienating their user base. What a shame.

[–] sake@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

It's great news when the social media oligopoly shoots themselves in the foot.

So far I've tried:

  • Facebook = Diaspora
  • Irc = Matrix (Element)
  • Reddit = Lemmy
  • Twitter = Mastodon

Out of all the different federated solutions I've tried, I believe this one has the best chance to hit big. Diaspora didn't work because the network effect is too strong with Facebook. Same with Matrix and Mastodon. But reddit is pseudoanonymous platform, you are not here because of some specific people. It's actually somewhat a benefit when there are less people and you have more room for people to see the content you put out. And the quality of the discussion can be better when there are fewer people.

It's still likely that everyone will just go back to reddit but we have a good chance here. The Lemmy UI is actually better and more snappy for someone who has used old reddit all this time.

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[–] communist@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit finding ways to actively make things worse, while lemmy rapidly improves.

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[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

My mobile is experimenting with not visiting reddit.

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[–] flickertail@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Between this and Twitter, I feel like "enshittification" is really the word of the past year. It's incredible to watch these massive social networks completely turn on their users in the name of profit.

[–] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

They were always going to. The pre-enshittification stage of a modern capitalist website consists of burning VC money to collect users to later exploit.

[–] IDe@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Twitter probably opened the floodgates when they managed to shaft users and cut API access without outright killing themselves. Now everyone else is emboldened to ask "why can't we do that too?".

[–] Kaladin_Stormblessed@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

*without outright killing themselves YET.

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[–] duncesplayed@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I hate when people use passive voice in these things. It's such a slimy way to try and avoid responsibility.

"We have blocked you from using a mobile browser." is the active voice. It includes a subject ("we") and a verb ("blocked"). It says that someone made a decision, executed that decision, and is responsible.

"It looks like ... ", " ... is currently unavailable" is so fucking weaselly and irresponsible. You are 100% a complete piece of shit if you ever say something like that. You are not responsible enough to handle a Wendy's drive-through order, let alone a large organization.

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[–] Sat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's getting worse by the minute. I really really hope Lemmy usage picks up.

[–] sgt_fridge@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (26 children)

It seriously is. I've been on the site for all of 30 mins now and I am loving it so much more than reddit

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[–] lunarshot@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The API issue was a huge nail into the coffin of the user experience at reddit. For sure, mobile site will disappear and then old.reddit.

Everything about this is utterly tone deaf, you can see it in u/spez answer in his AMA about how the company will continue to be profit driven until it’s profitable. Bro, this is not how you talk to your user base. Your actions, policies, and strategic outlook should be toward driving the user experience and your service so that it is profitable. Not degrading all things for grinding down every extra cent at the expense of your entire companies differentiators.

Fuck spez, fuck reddit.

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[–] crowscall@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (8 children)

They're really trying to speedrun killing their site lmao

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[–] misguidedfunk@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Monetization at all costs it seems. They really want that IPO bag.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Steve saw Elon's work at twitter and thought, "Watch me. I can ruin a company faster."

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