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What do you host on your backup servers?
(lemmy.selfhostcat.com)
...backup servers? 👀
Ohhh, look at Mr. Fancy Pants over here with his backup servers! What, ya scared the internet’s gonna go poof and you won’t be able to access your little spreadsheets? ‘Oh no, my cat memes are in danger!’
Listen, buddy, some of us are just out here raw-doggin’ the web like real men. What’s next, you gonna put a generator in your bathroom in case the toilet paper dispenser fails? Fuggedaboutit!
"raw dogging the Internet"... I chuckled out loud
You made me snort what fortunately was only tea and not a carbonated drink! XD
I backup my backup servers to my production machines.
Circular redundancy, ftw!
First I laughed, but now I’m seeing the genius.
If everything is backups, everything is production. Truly a galaxy brain solution.
It's constantly-buying-additional-hard-drives-for-balooning-storage all the way down!
My backups. Shouldn't really put anything else on them, now should you?
My backup concept is on the to-do list. Been there for a couple years. I do have triple pihole/caddy/haproxy/redis for high availability on a triple node proxmox cluster! necessary? no. cool, though? heck yeah! friends and family impressed? uhm... what was the question?
If you're using proxmox, just install PBS somewhere else and configure a schedule. It's pretty quick to configure.
I know about pbs, I even have an IP set aside for it :) I do have the built-in proxmox backup function take nightly snapshots or my important vms to my nas, but I don't have anything really put together. Also, nothing for my nas itself. It is configured in a raid 5, but as we all know, raid is not backup :)
One day, after I am done with [insert reason here], I will have a bad ass, well thought out backup solution.
One day, after I am done with -insert reason here-, I will have a bad ass, well thought out backup solution.
For some reason you're "insert reason here" was dropped by lemmy. I guess a sequential less-than/greater-than messes with it.
:| gosh... I'll go back to edit it.
backups usually :3c
My backup server is the only one of my servers that is located outside Germany. You know, in case the British come again. Or the data centre of my other servers burns down. Or something like that.
Every night, this server receives a (compressed, incremental) backup of the most important data (content and configuration files) from each of my other servers, which I created with Borg.
VPS or personally setup?
What would be a “not personally setup”?
VPS
Well, VPS then.
Is it a VPS? Or do you have a physical server in another country?
Both, somewhat. It is a virtual root server. I’m still considering to consolidate - at least - my OpenBSD servers into one, but I’m lazy.
Backups?
I have 2 terabyte hard drives that get backed up when I remember.
I have some scripts that use restic to backup to locally connected USB drives weekly.
The USB drives are connected to smart plugs that I control via home assistant and some webhooks. So the drives are off and stay off when not in use for the backup. I also don't turn them both on at the same time.
I bought an Odroid HC2 years ago with the intent to have it connect over wireguard and mount to the NAS VM. Then I could put it in a friends house and use it as an offsite backup.
I also sometimes backup to backblaze
Backblaze b2
A copy of data isn't really a backup, that's also why RAID isn't a backup. You should have proper backups with something like borg or restic.
You do realize that what borg and restic do is make copies of your data, right?
In such a way that it checks the integrity of the files. Which a normal copy paste does not do. Rsync does this as well bdw.
I think you have a misunderstanding. Restic and Borg checks the integrity of the backup repository and not the files being backed up.
None of those programs verifies integrity. Borg deduplicates, and optionally encrypts data. Restic is a front end for rsync, which only offers incremental back up. Meaning, restic/rsync compares your source and destination directories, and if the data are identical it does nothing, but if there are any changes it will upload only that changed data. None of the apps care what the data are, you can backup gibberish and they will happily put it another place for you.
You do realize that it actually does a lot more than that right which is what makes it a proper backup system, right? If all it did was sync a copy of data then it wouldn't be a proper backup. As I already pointed out, so let me know if I need to slow it down further for you.
Yes, please. Slow it down for me. I'd love to hear this.
A synced copy of data doesn't protect against accidental file deletions... that is why RAID isn't a backup, that is why snapRAID isn't a backup, that is why syncthing is not a backup, that is why any kind of synced copy is not a backup. Let me know if you're still struggling with this VERY basic concept... that has had it's own little phrase parroted for decades, "RAID is not a backup."
Well thank you, but you haven't tried to explain any of this VERY basic concept you speak of, you've just told me that RAID isn't backup. No one but you brought up RAID.
Nice try, son. Now, stick to mansplaining something you actually understand and can articulate.
Host? As in running services?
Wireguard and the Proxmox Backup Server software itself. Redundancy/failover comes from the server cluster itself, not my backup server.
As far as the backup content, it "hosts" backup images of my VMs and LXCs, plus /home from my laptop in case it ever gets lost or damaged.
I've got a subset of my files encrypted and backed up using borg. It gets backed up to another computer in my home and then cloud storage via borgbase.com.
Restic to Wasabi S3.
Lot of people confusing a redundancy with backups. My backup server is currently doing its part providing main services due to a bad RAM stick causing all sorts of chaos before I figured out it was the root cause.
I normally have all my dockers backed up and not running but ready to startvon the second server. Most of my data is from sailing the seas and so it can be restored by the ARR stack fairly well. I do backup a few key things like my PGP keys and keepass but the chances of all 5+ of the systems I'm actively using failing all at once is pretty minimal.
My backupserver is a VM.
The host also has VMs for Homeassistant, an MS AD DC based on Windows 2022,
this post was submitted on 06 Jan 2025
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