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[–] chesmotorcycle@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Fusion-grade copium...

[The Russian] momentum has put them in a position to take the highway to the Dnipropetrovsk region, which would cut off Ukrainian forces in Pokrovsk as well as forcing Ukrainian forces to defend from two directions at once.

“They are trying to get maximum territory so that when their forces are eventually exhausted (!), they have something to negotiate with,” said Cherniak.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I love how after three years they still expect people to believe that Russian army is about to collapse. Just wait a little more and they'll be exhausted, just a little more bro. I promise.

[–] chesmotorcycle@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, they'll collapse by the heat death of the universe! Checkmate, tankies...

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

that's right it's all about playing the long game

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We will give a middle-finger to the heat death of the universe by the power of SWCC

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not so much copium as projection. Ukraine's sole strategy now is to cling to as much territory as possible in hopes of getting a more favorable negotiation position. Which is why they assume that Russia wants the same, but nothing in how the Russians have approached this conflict so far indicates that they operate this way.

[–] chesmotorcycle@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

True, and since Ukraine's forces are on the brink of exhaustion, they'd love to believe the same is true of Russia's.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Is ukraine even ukraine without the Dnipro? I need a geography nerd to explain me which city along the dnipro river is the most important one.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There wouldn't be much of value left without it.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Their whole economy revolves around agriculture alongside the Dnipro, controlling the dams that distribute the water is the key here. Russia being close to the river tells me theyre cooked

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly, also all the industry is in the east as well. Worth noting too that Russia would be able to shell stuff across the river, so they don't even have to cross the Dnepr to make that territory a gray zone that Ukraine can't use productively.

[–] CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Advance in Dnipro, but apparently haven't purged Kursk Oblast from AFU? I am confused

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Kursk is a roach motel for the AFU. As long as they have presence there, that forces them to divert valuable resources from the collapsing front in the south. There is no chance of AFU being able to hold the towns they have in Kursk in the long term, and there is no strategic value to the territory they managed to capture. All that's accomplishing is splitting up their very limited resources. Why would Russia want to prevent Ukraine from doing that.

[–] CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh I dunno, civilians who are being murdered, their destroyed by AFU?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Civilians evacuated in the first week when the attack started.

[–] EuthanatosMurderhobo@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, I can also use maps, thanks. The discrepancy of location is one of the reasons I am confused

Russian advance on ~~Dnipro~~ Dnepropetrovsk is coming from Crimea and Donetsk, it's a different front from Kursk entirely, what's so confusing?