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[-] pizzaiolo@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago

Zero sympathy for animal farmers

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

They didnt mind endless subsidies.

[-] omgarm@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

They are very large pollutors, but governments have been eager to lure them into horrible plans every decade and then screw them over the next. That's how you piss off people.

[-] thbb@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, if we want to feed everyone in Europe and not spend 50% of our revenue on food like humanity has before the 19th century, we will have to keep an industrial agriculture, specially now that population is triple what it was then.

Europe's goals wrt. agriculture are myopic.

Specially when we consider that organic farming emits between 12 and 50% more greenhouse gases per calorie produced than reasoned industrial agriculture.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is about livestock farming, which is massively less efficient "per calorie produced" than organic crop farming.

But the "greenhouse gases per calorie produced" metric is highly myopic anyway.

[-] schroedingershat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cool. Let's do a mix of regenerative and industrial plant based agriculture then. Animals contribute 70% of the emissions whilst providing <20% of the nutrients.

We can also end fossil-fuel fed energy crops while we're at it.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So maybe start a campaign for less population growth?

Why do i constantly see special parking spots for large families, their discount programs for fuel, cheaper housing with more than two kids? It should be the opposite.

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