~~Rust is so brief it's not even listed~~ I can't read

It's interesting, the results here are way different than the Code Golf & Coding Challenges Stack Exchange. I would never expect Haskell to be that low. But after looking at code.golf, I realize it's because I/O on CG&CC is more relaxed. Most Haskell submissions are functions which return the solution.

Sidenote: I like the CG&CC method, it's semi-competitive, semi-cooperative.

• all languages welcome
• almost all users post "Try it Online"/"Attempt This Online" links
• most users post explanations under their submissions
• often people will post solutions beginning with "port of user1234's excellent Foolang answer" when there's a clever shortcut someone finds
• or people will post their own solution with "here's a solution which doesn't use user1234's algorithm"
• or people will add comments to answers with minor improvements

IMO It's geared towards what is the best part about code golf: teaching people about algorithm design and language design.

What, SQL is down the bottom?

im confused, c and c have header files that are super verbose, not sure how its so high up that list

This is why I only use machine code

Any idea how Scala would rank? I have a hard time thinking it'd end up far away from Ruby.

Surprised by C# and Java. People always moan that they have too much boilerplate code and something else about how OOP sucks and that makes these languages too verbose, yet they're close to the top of the chart here for least characters used on average.

Why is sql so low?

It would be interesting to see how this ranking changes if the goal is "very succinct, but not unreadable" or "most idiomatic" rather than the code golf incentive of "any arcane nonsense for 1 less char".

Who tf uses OCaml. It was created by my alma mater, we hated studying that shit, it was invented for crazy people.

NO WAY php is more verbose than Java.

I'm not familiar with code.golf but I wonder how whitespace is handled? I find python is very concise anyway, but I wonder how the white space is counted (single tab, four spaces for black, etc).

I hate Python 3 requires parantes for print. Python 2 accepted print 'hi'. Vs print('hi')