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Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just saw an ad for G20, a fiction where some terrorists kidnap all the leaders of the G20 at the meeting. But don't worry, the US president frees herself, and she's going full Liam Neeson to free everyone and get revenge.

LOL completely unbelievable

What would instead happen with the US president that is in charge now: if you free me I will help you with all your requests and I will personally execute the hostages

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 20 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I've heard shows like Madam Secretary and The West Wing be considered, akin to Star Trek, "competence porn."

The idea, the fantasy, that the people making the critical decisions that affect so many people are consulting experts, weighing heavy costs, consulting the law, and are kept up at night because they care so deeply for making the best call they can so they don't let down all those who depend on them. These characters have been role models for leadership for generations at this point.

And here we are, in a complete fever dream of a failed state: With a convicted felon and failed reality show TV personality, his foreign billionaire handler, and a weak spineless, loud little dweeb we all forgot was even vice... burning the last vestiges of peace and goodwill all around themselves, handing us and our allies over in a competition with other fascists to be the world's worst enemies, screaming at world leaders, destroying the environment out of spite, and heck, shilling beans from the oval office. Because why not.

Who's close enough to this to do something about it? Where are the competent ones who will regain control of the bridge from these terrorists? Yeah, where's our "G20 president"?

Well, I just remembered, we need to support people like Governor Janet Mills of Maine , and empower anyone any everyone who will stand up against this bullying.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

totally not a russian dog

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

remember you guys. peace day 1! trump never lies

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[–] subiacOSB@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What get me is not only how Trump is destroying our country but how they defend him. He can do no wrong. Wow. I’m American and I stand firm with Ukraine. Glory to Ukraine!

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 21 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What a shit show...

This is the weakness of modern democracies... You, as Putin, can just wait for 4 years and there will maybe be an idiot in power, who.ruins everything done before.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's the whole paradox of tolerance, on a slightly different level.

A democratic society cannot allow non-democractic elements such as Trump to use the democratic process. By it's very nature. People will then say "but it's democracy, I should be able to choose whatever I want", yes, except choosing against democracy. Which is by definition not a choice that can be available.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol imagine being a Russian and seeing the "Evil West" siding with your leader. Must be a confusing time... 🤣

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 20 points 1 month ago

This is genuinely one of the stupidest things I've seen. We all are used the the bar getting lower and lower but lordy it just accelerated.

[–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well, we're going to have to make friends with Iran to make our membership in the Axis of Evil official.

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[–] ReasonableHat@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago
[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] pageflight@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What horrifying asses Trump and JD are.

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