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After having used Chat GPT for a while to just check it out, I had decided to not use it due to the high water consumption and me not really needing it for a while. Now that I had discovered the Buy from EU movement and am dual using Reddit and feddit right now, I decided to check out EU made AI solutions and the most promising for me right now is Mistral Le Chat, even though I will probably only use it occasionally just like Chat GPT. I am still glad that I support a european made solution and alternative to not give money, or in this case, revenue from data selling to a literal fascist billionaire...

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[–] haroldfinch@feddit.nl 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I started using Le Chat a few weeks ago, also inspired by the Buy From EU initiative.

While I'm missing some creature comforts (memory, projects), the experience is good enough for me to switch. I've canceled my Chat GPT subscription because of it. Remember to export your data from OpenAI. It gives you a raw dump of all your conversations and customizations.

I may need to 'retune' my prompting because I was getting slightly better responses with o3 for coding. Also a warmer tone in conversation. But it wasn't enough to stop me from moving over.

[–] EnbyJay@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I just hope that features like memory or a general inprovement in quality of answers, tone of messages etc will be brought to Le Chat over time once the programme gets patched further. Thank you for the tip to export my data from open AI

[–] AceStructor@feddit.org 11 points 3 days ago

I switched as well. Additionally I was only using free gpt, and now have a Mistral subscription. Extra support for a growing EU company and better rates.

[–] sniggleboots@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago

I've been using it for a few days as well, I honestly don't notice a difference. I wasn't a chat gpt power user to begin with. So all of the upsides of switching without any of the downsides, sounds good to me!

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I use it as well, but keep an eye out for Schmidt.

[–] EnbyJay@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Who is this Schmidt person you are talking about? I am just asking out of curiosity.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Eric Schmidt. Investor in Mistral, ex-CEO of Google. Asshole with no bottom in sight.

[–] EnbyJay@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh no, that is truly terrible. Still, every company in our capitalist world has at least a few (sometimes literal) corpses in their basements. Trust me on that, I am German...

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fanta, Puma, Adidas and Hugo Boss are nothing compared to an alive and fresh billionaire from the US.

[–] EnbyJay@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes that is true even though Fanta is part of the Coca Cola company whose execs are still alive and it's still an american company. We do have lots of better tasting and sonewhat healthier alternatives for that in Germany or Europe as a whole.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

True and true. I don't count Fanta as German anymore though. Am I wrong to do so?

[–] EnbyJay@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago

No you are not wrong, while it had originated in Germany during a certain time period involving an Austrian painter, it is still a Coca Cola product. So just buy the higher quality and better tasting alternatives.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Oh right, the guy that says we should forget about our climate goals because AI will solve them.

[–] zaxvenz@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

They also partnered with Microsoft on 26 February 2024

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral_AI#Partnership_with_Microsoft

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm going to switch as well, when my subscription on openai is up.

How are mistrals reasoning models?

[–] silent_squirrel@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Afaik Mistral doesn't have a reasoning model atm

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

That sucks.

[–] klu9@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does it count as European if it was trained on content ~~stolen~~ "fair used" from all around the world?

[–] EnbyJay@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Well by this metric nothing counts as made in country or region x,y,z because there is alwqys either some sort of theft or "inspiration" involved. Don't get me wrong, I despise the way these companies basically got around copyright to the disadvantage of the artists and authors making the content, while I am not even allowed to make a copy of what I own or get it someway when it isn't in sale anymore...