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My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed helps because you can create a btrfs snapshot at any moment and then roll back to it if you get in trouble. And it does this automatically whenever you update the packages.

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed Gang. The only distro I haven't been able to break after 6 months (well, I have, but I've been able to snapper rollback every time)

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's the first rolling distro I have tried, and I've been running it for about 3 years now without any real problems. I think maybe twice there have been updates that cause issues, out of hundreds of updates per week. It's surprisingly solid, and everything's up to date.

Not everyone would want hundreds of updates per week of course, but it's up to the user to decide how often to install updates. Unlike Windows, the updates don't intrude, and they are fast.

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

It seems to hit that right balance of bleeding edge while SUSE are still testing the packages for a bit to ensure there aren't bad updates. Fedora sounds interesting to me as well, but I'm not going to fix what isn't broken.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

👍 never had to start over

[–] Isaac@waterloolemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Been looking for a DR system for Ubuntu or mint, need to look into it myself but would like some feedback if this could be the right ticket.

I just bought a raspberry pi 4 to host plex, I'm sure I could get it to do backup and restore too. Looking into it

[–] HexagonSun@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I wanted to give OpenSuse Tumbleweed a go yesterday, but the live USB got stuck at “Loading basic drivers” so I couldn’t even get to being able to install it.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Another big part is learning how to set it up in a way that it's functional and productive the first time and then STOP FUCKING WITH IT.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That also sounds like a good way to stop learning!

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

you can either have a system to learn on, or a stable system to work on.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not quite. But sorta, yeah.

Learning to "not fuck with it" or ways to do so and rollback are valid lessons themselves.

Being able to segregate "production" and "development" environments is very valuable.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Being able to segregate "production" and "development" environments is very valuable.

This is a best practice that pretty much everyone, eventually, discovers on their own.

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[–] bert_brause@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Recently I accidently deleted the contents of /boot/ on my first arch install. The lesson that followed was something I would have rather saved for later ^^

[–] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago

Making errors and analysing them to figure out what went wrong and why is a huge part of learning. You can only learn so much from theory, some things can be learned best by trial and error and the experience gained from it.

When I started with Linux I did choose to use Gentoo Linux because it was the most complex and complicated option, so I had the most opportunities to learn something by ducking up!

[–] needanke@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

I think we are using linux very differently. Mine is two and one of those was a dead ssd.

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

I haven't majorly fucked up any recent systems (almost botched the steam deck once or twice but nothing that required a reinstall), but god 10 years ago I probably reset my arch dual boot like five times lmao

[–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

Two. The first time I had nvidia related issues with nobara, so I removed nvidia drivers for reinstallation... And couldn't figure out how to get them back. The second time I had used mint for long enough that I felt confident enough to nuke windows partition. I used gparted and nuked the whole disk instead.

Not counting the times I tried fedora and it killed itself with the first updates and then with multimedia codecs.

[–] sockpuppetsociety@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Both, to the point it doesn't boot, and just tweaking enough bugs that it's easier to jist start over.

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[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Unbootable systems in the dozens. I think I've only fucked up the kernel itself a few times. But grub or other bootloader tons, desktop environment tons, and getting into states so broken the only readily available option was reinstall, dozens. Thankfully most of these were right after a fresh install. For example dual booting just doesn't work right for some OS installers and grub fails. Manjaro bricked itself after an update. Etc. etc.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I remember managing to install two DE one above the other, and having them, somehow working at the exact same time. That was trippy.

I didn't even know how I did it. I'm pretty sure that I couldn't replicate that on purpose.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I’m not sure I’ve ever actually killed a system, I’ve booted from UEFI shell manually just to recover systems. Back when I was using arch id just chroot into the system from a flash drive and fix whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is the way!

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I'm on my second install now. I fucked up the first one pretty handily by accidentally wiping the boot partition in gparted. (Like a complete idiot, because the partitions are labeled.)

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I started nearly 30 years ago and cannot count the dead systems I have left in my wake. Just on the 2000-ish thing where Dell first offered Linux but it was inherently unstable after booting the pre-written disk image if you touched it, alone... So many kernel sanity failures...

[–] sockpuppetsociety@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They died for a reason, for yor growth

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 3 points 2 days ago

True, sacrifices on the altar of the God Sysadmin, and their divine mount Er'orreport

[–] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm lucky to have only had one system nuked by a faulty power supply that shut down during a kernel update.

I usually just reinstalled back then. But I didn't get into it till the late nineties. Back when Ian was still on the list serves.

Unless you mean nuking the OS or borking the bootloader. Then yeah, countless.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I've never in 15 years of Linux use and tinker have ever screwed a kernel. And I compiled LFS once.

[–] TorJansen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I learned by a lot of distro hopping, tweaking and tuning and compiling kernels (way back when tho), to not being afraid of "breaking things." Since Nov. 1992. It helps when you use a spare PC or laptop though, no panic about loss

I haven't had any issues with the kernel yet. The worst thing that I can remember doing is messing up the systemd boot entry on my Arch Linux install.

[–] circuitfarmer 3 points 2 days ago

I used to have a side system with /home on its own partition precisely to learn different distros and setups. It makes it much easier having a partition which is retained.

These days, qemu is your friend for playing around with random Linux stuff.

[–] wesker 3 points 2 days ago

It do be like that, at least for the first couple years, and typically with decreasing frequency.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

i broke debian on my plex server and said fuck it and migrated to endeavor because im more familiar with arch

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I always think of Kiwi / Ozzie slang when I type chroot.

Of course that's after consulting the ArchKiwi to remember how to mount it

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 day ago

Ah Chroot bro

[–] fmtx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Bricking hardware is a form of enrichment for me.

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