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Ok but now is not a good time to disarm

it's wild that only 55% of you guys want a fairer health care system

Two things.

One, I would get a gun and find a trustworthy community if I were a leftist or minority American.

As much as I despise guns, if shit gets Gilead bad, you'll probably be happy to have it.

As for community, if you don't have one yet, I would recommend joining either a socialist club or a progressive/traditional (i.e. not racist) Christian church. A black church (think MLK), or a pride flag flying liberal Church (think John Brown).

When Nazi's invaded my country, these were the two communities that actually resisted, by fighting back and helping people hide and escape. In times of slavery, socialism wasn't yet a thing, so the abolitionists and underground railroad people were progressive Christians. Jesus was the OG socialist and these communities live it.

70% couldn't ve bothered voting knowing it meant democracy's end

Good intentions are important Americans, but you cannot make the world a better place just by having good intentions and navel gazing

Clearly people aren't voting the same way they're answering surveys. I don't see how forming a new party will make that happen.

Only a little more than half support Medicare for all? Is this a terminology issue, or are 45% of Americans that terrible?

These numbers are bullshit.

Who in their right mind actually believes Americans prefer gun control to: abortion care, legal weed, gay marriage, higher minimum wage, and home ownership.

Like regardless of what you or I want for America, that's an actual load of shit. Too many people love their guns, there's literally more guns than people here.

AOC and Bernie are tearing up things! Support them everywhere! Especially on social media.

This is a better platform than the Dems provided in 2024. Upvoted and cross-posted.

I think you need to somehow get money out of politics or these majorities will continue to be divided.

Our entire US system is set up to make it so that it is essentially (literally) impossible for a third party to win. This article gives a decent basic overview of why: https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4947662-why-a-third-party-presidential-candidate-can-never-win/

The current two party system doesn't represent what the majority wants. Both parties work for the super wealthy. Until we get rid of the Democratic and Republican parties nothing good will happen.

That's not how you cite a source - the point of a citation is to allow the reader to trace, and evaluate, the source of a claim, and the methodology used to arrive there. I get that it's impractical to do a full bibliography, but the way this poster just 'cites' a bunch of organizations without tracing specific claims to specific publications detracts from the argument. We should be better than the enemy who make claims and respond with "do your own research" when challenged. Part of the reason why we're in this mess is because we stopped supporting, or trusting, the process behind evidence-based science. If we make these claims, can't we link to a site that lists the actual papers behind the claims? Otherwise this whole stuff is vulnerable to the argument that "this is a radical left delusion and fake news". Fascist propaganda shouldn't be resisted in kind, that just drags us down to their level.

Be all that as it may, but sweet fuck all percent of you actually vote, so what difference will it make?

Then why didn't they fucking vote for it?

I don't believe e any of these numbers.

I’m sad that trans rights aren’t on the list there, not surprised with how awful things are but still sad

Then fucking vote like it

I agree with almost all of these but some of these numbers were definitely pulled out of someone’s ass

90% of the US don't want more gun control laws. As a percentage that would be saying that every state in the US except Texas wants more gun laws ... it's not right.

I consider myself liberal, but would never support taking away someone's rights. Own all the guns and even a fucking tank if you want ... but you will go to jail if you harm someone with them.

We were given the right to have firearms for the exact situation that is happening now.

I appreciate and agree with the sentiment, but I think a call to form an entirely new political party demonstrates a naivety with regards to how the American political system works. It's just not going to happen. A third party will NEVER displace one of the two major parties without massive changes to the electoral system that would likely require a Constitutional Amendment.

Our system and political culture is just not structured to allow for 3rd parties. What's more, the 2 major parties have ingrained themselves into the system so much that they have MASSIVE institutional advantages over a 3rd party.

This will never be a successful effort. I think a better goal would be to co-opt and take over the Democratic Party, booting out all the Vichy collaborationists like Schumer, Jefferies, Newsom, Adams, Pelosi, etc, and remaking the party.

With a new 3rd party, best case scenario is it has 0 impact. If it does get any votes, it'll just divide the anti-fascist vote with the Democrats (and any other 3rd parties) making it even more difficult to win.

If that's true why did the majority let the minority lead the way, are they dumb?

Drop the anti-gun arguments; they aren't based on reality.