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This is what the editor should have sent in the signal chat after the ordeal.
In normal times, Pete would have resigned for a mistake like this. Today? MAGA cracks a beer for him.
He really knows how to open a girls heart
I'm out of the loop. What happened?
USA government officials accidentally added a journalist into a private Signal group chat which they used to discuss war plans.
Also the NSA called signal a security risk just one month ago saying it could be easily hacked. this could got Service members killed.
"Accidentally"
Surely there is eventually a level of stupid that we can agree is just stupid? This is it right here. There's no plan. No 4D chess. No intentional leak. It's just a bunch of idiots breaking the law, praying to God, ending lives, and then clapping themselves on the back and sending high five emojis.
Exactly this is no conspiracy stuff. these people are just this fucking dumb to do this. unfit to be in government.
It's a good thing we got rid of all those unqualified DEI hires!
Now its the Dui Hires !
A bunch of senior white house figures, including the defence secretary and the VP, added a journalist to a group message chat about military action in Yemen
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/24/journalist-trump-yemen-war-chat
I wonder what messaging service they used.
It was signal
Just wanna be clear that this didn't happen because of some technical flaw/vulnerability in Signal. This was completely Human Error
Signal also features auto-delete for messages. They chose not to communicate through secure channels, and are actively trying to keep their shit out of the permanent record. These fucks are actively evading paper trails and transcripts because they know full-well how indefensible their crimes are.
Would this be good publicity or bad publicity for signal?
"Even government officials think we're secure!"
Or
"Idiots actually think signal is secure for classified information"
Signal is very secure, but your encryption doesn't matter when you add unknown people to your encrypted chats.
It's like buying the most secure, unpickable door lock and giving the key with the address on it to a complete stranger
I don't doubt Signal per se, but I am surprised that government officials would use it to discuss military plans. I would have thought the government would use something developed by the military just to be sure that it's safe.
Sure, they can vet the source code, but it seems more straightforward for the government to develop their own solution than create a team to vet the security of something that they didn't write. Maybe it's overkill, but I'd almost think they should be doing this on vetted hardware as well. Signal is also relatively new, and they had to have a way to discuss these things beforehand.
They don't want to comply with government communition laws so they use signal instead.
That's what Buttigieg indicated. There are secure means of communicating classified information, with a process for ensuring people with clearance are the only ones allowed to view this information. I imagine those rules are in place exactly for this reason, to prevent accidental leaks.
The rookies that Trump hired probably didn't see the harm in doing it in this way, I mean come on, Signal is secure so what is there to worry about?
Who knows what else has been leaked to the wrong people accidentally.
I would have expected the USA to have their own private network for this shit... such a meh nation nowadays
They do have ways of talking of classified information. Coincidentally, it is more tedious than using Signal and you are forced to keep records of those conversations, things that these people didn't want.
Security and messaging is tricky to get right. Government uses a lot of COTS stuff because it's easier to have someone to sue when shit goes south.
That's not to say that everything involved here isn't a flagrant violation of every protocol and procedure involved in protecting classified information. It is.
I think it's gonna end up being bad. Mainly because most people are gonna hear on Fox News that this was due to some flaw in Signal, and just take that at face value. A lot of people are not gonna even read an article about why or what even happened.
Ah ok. Thanks! :)