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    For context: I habe a PC with an 8gb SSD and I somehow need to get an app on there that only has a flatpak release

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    People bitching about Flatpaks don't understand that they have dedupe built in. You're literally not using any more space and it's easier for app developers to deploy.

    Try using Snaps sometime, if you want something to actually bitch about.

    [–] Shayeta@feddit.org 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    No problem, just makr sure your system has the exact version of libraries the application needs. And oh, you will only update those dependencies when the application update updates the requirements.

    Oh what's that? Another application you want to install uses the same lib but different version? Tough luck, chump!

    Seriously it's either flatpaks or the multi-version dependency management that openSUSE has, and you're not saving much more space here either.

    [–] rice@lemmy.org 1 points 6 days ago

    or statically compiling literally everything then you got 50 copies of the same thing like windows & macos!

    [–] anzo@programming.dev 3 points 4 days ago

    1- Those locale and icon themes will be reused with other flatpacks. And it's less than half of a gigabyte, not the 2tb claimed in the overlay text.

    2- Use docker container with prowlarr instead of torrhunt. And check https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy

    [–] FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    Another missed occasion to have taken a screenshot. There's gnome-screenshot, scrot, your DE's integrated tool and so many others to choose from, you can do it!

    That sort of shit makes me hate the modern internet. (Also screenshots are cleaner and therefore compress better since you seem to care (rightfully) about storage space.)

    [–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Yeah but if youre using a lemmy app on your phone its significantly faster to just use your phone camera rather than having to share/transfer the file over somehow, or sign into lemmy on your pc. Im not saying you're wrong, but i get why someone wouldn't care for a quick throwaway post. Also storage then isnt an issue on the PC at all because the image is only on the phone.

    [–] FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Phones also have limited storage?

    Regardless, posting on the desktop is exactly as hard as typing in the name of your instance and your credentials...

    If you're gonna be editing a meme, typing comments and such, it's worth it very fast imo.

    And crucially, it's a really basic form of respect for your audience. Oh and also framing the shot correctly, we're missing part of the text...

    Yeah but their computer is what had limited storage. Most phones these days have a lot more than 8gb. Idk like i said youre not wrong but i still got what they were trying to communicate.

    [–] rice@lemmy.org 3 points 6 days ago

    It's very efficient for what it does. and your programs will actually open.

    [–] x00z@lemmy.world 140 points 1 week ago (13 children)

    Flatpak seems to be the best choice for consistency and to have it working straight out of the box. I think Linux currently needs this because we're getting a lot less tech-savvy Linux users nowadays. Don't get me wrong; package managers should still be used, but how are we going to get people to change if they run into package conflicts or accidentally uninstall a wrong package?

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    [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 111 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Personally I do like the ideas behind Snap/Flatpak. I think the sandboxing is a huge deal and will improve security going forward.

    [–] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 92 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    In a world where space is usually the cheapest and most available hardware on a PC, I tend to agree. That being said, it's the kind of solution that comes from engineers who put the onus on the hardware to make up for their shitty software. Engineers like me.

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    [–] pastaq@lemmy.world 93 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    You hate people who spend hundreds of ours of their free time developing software, who then release that software for free, under no obligation to you or anyone else, and your reasoning is because they provide it in a packaging solution you don't find ideal?

    Maybe fuck off and write your own software.

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    [–] PanArab@lemm.ee 78 points 1 week ago (11 children)

    8GB SSD

    There’s your problem. The last time 8GB was plenty was in 1998.

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    [–] savvywolf@pawb.social 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Oh lmao, I decided to look into this. https://github.com/flathub/com.ktechpit.torrhunt/blob/master/com.ktechpit.torrhunt.yaml

    Looks like it just downloads the .snap package (directly from Canonical's website) and extracts it. It's also, of course, completely closed source so who knows what it's doing when it's running.

    [–] rice@lemmy.org 1 points 6 days ago

    oh wow that's way worse than the crappy one he said in his actual post.. He said a totally different software. He's trying to run several things on this machine lol

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    [–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 63 points 1 week ago (5 children)
    [–] exonode@lemm.ee 53 points 1 week ago

    Compile it yourself.

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    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    did you see those little < in front of the download sizes? org.kde.KStyle.Adwaita, org.kdePlatform.Locale, org.kde.Platform and com.ktechpit.torrhunt won't be fully downloaded as those are possibly already installed and can be reused, so in the best case you only download org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-570-86-16 fully.

    [–] lastweakness@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

    There's also deduplication across the different files. So you could even end up with less overall size over time if you use Flatpaks for everything.

    [–] gamer@lemm.ee 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Flatpaks implement deduping, so they actually don't take that much space when installed.

    I habe a PC with an 8gb SSD

    I think I found your real problem.

    [–] Shayeta@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago

    Didn't know about that, how exactly is that implemented?

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

    I habe a PC with an 8gb SSD

    Are you using a first gen eeePC?
    I think I bought one of those for 40€, 12 years ago.

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    [–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    Yeah flatpak won't work on my Nokia 3310 either, what a shit software...

    Edit: if you upvoted this comment, your kneecaps pop when you pick up things from the ground

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