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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 71 points 1 day ago (10 children)

While I agree with telling Trump to go lick Elon's balls, states are specifically forbidden from entering into trade agreements with foreign countries by the Constitution. To do this, California would need to be willing to secede from the Union. I'm okay with it.

The best I could tell from the article was that all he was doing was essentially lobbying foriegn countries to tailor their responses so that they hurt california less than other states. I can't see any law blocking that. From what I could tell he wasn't even offering anything real in exchange.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're implying the constitution has any weight right now (it doesn't)

I'd say fuckin do it

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It depends on who's breaking the law/constitution.

[–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

At this point it's hardly the law and the constitution. These are just unpredictable whims of the people in power.

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (7 children)

California produces 10% of American agricultural needs. If they secede it would be way worse on the economy than these tariffs.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think if California were to secede, Oregon and Washington probably would too. A lot of blue states that border Canada would also probably Jump ship. New York and Michigan might secede too. Those 5 states make up almost 30% of America's economy and are the center of very lucrative industries like the movie industry, automotive industry, electronics and software industries, the global financial industry. Those 5 states would do just fine without the United States but the United states would be an unimportant backwater without them.

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[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago (9 children)
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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 73 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Good. There is no point in being part of a government that doesn't believe in governance. Here's hoping that other Blue States join a compact with California.

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[–] deepfuckingdumb@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is based on a quote "look at new opportunities to expand trade" and a tweet "California is here and ready to talk." How definitive do those two things sound? How definitive does Newsweek's title sound?

Newsweek is a gossip rag.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 194 points 2 days ago (25 children)

Here we go, dissolution of the U.S. is starting. It's a slow roll, but i think that's where we are headed

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump has got another great idea. A tax of 1.5 million dollars for each ship made in China that will dock at any American port, or 1 million if the ship is not made in china but the shipper fleet has a majority of Chinese ships.

So, off before they did like California, Panama, Louisiana, new York, those stops will increase the price of shipping by 4.5 million dollars.

Trump thinks that in this way, in a couple weeks, shipyards will reopen in the states and everyone will buy American ships. Because it takes a couple days to build an oil tanker

Result:

They'll just unload the goods in Canada or Mexico then use trains/trucks. For oil and coal and wheat and other stuff that can't be easily transported by land without ax existing infrastructure, that's an additional 20% cost on top of tariffs. Inflation go go go

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