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I was a British tourist trying to leave America. Then I was detained, shackled and sent to an immigration detention centre (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 38 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I want to know who narced on her.

She was just doing chores at houses in exchange for boarding. She wasn’t paid. She just did chores.

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago

She narced on herself to Canada, then America overheard.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That would qualify as work according to the US gov. Because by doing these chores, you are potentially causing someone to not need to pay a nanny or whatever. Be careful how you define work -- you don't need to be directly paid.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago

It's not work because you're depriving someone of the job, it's work because you are doing a task for a benefit. It's just a non cash benefit.

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[+] hitmyspot@aussie.zone -12 points 2 days ago (10 children)

She was doing work for a benefit. It wasn’t cash, but it had value. If that wasn’t work, and therefore not taxable, everyone would just switch to getting paid in services and benefits that aren’t cash.

She was treated extremely harshly but she was working illegally. There are lots of digital nomads that do similar. They work in places where they are staying on a tourist visa, it’s illegal. I run a small business. When I am away on holidays overseas, my staff need to be paid. I log in and pay them while away. Technically that is in breach of my visa for most countries, I’d say.

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

You're an idiot.

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I feel like only one person calling you stupid isn't enough, so I'd like to add that this is one of the stupidest collections of words I have ever read.

I genuinely hope you make statements like this in your daily life. After all, the world needs humor.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

hey leave them alone. stupidity has nothing to do with it. are they right or wrong? sorry, but the facts matter here and I'm not trusting popular opinion to figure out immigration law

this place feels more like reddit lately

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i was about to write an actual response but honestly, it's entirely likely "you" aren't even even a real person so i'm just going to tell anyone reading this to eat more fibre for better gut health.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's the most stupid thing I've ever heard in my life.

You absolutely do not need to do anything to pay your staff it's just a standing order bank transaction.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lol, you clearly have never done payroll. Payslips need to be generated timesheets entered and payments need to be authorized. Not all staff work full time or work on a fixed schedule, so set and forget a standing bank order is not viable. I would imagine that's the case for most companies and businesses that employ hourly paid employees. Salried positions are generally in offices but even then they can vary.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You're still not paying them from a personal account so you're not doing business. Business accounts are not tied to a person, they're tied to the company so their example makes no sense.

Also that's not a correct interpretation of the law anyway, because obviously if the law worked like it would be fucking stupid.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

so your rationale for believing this person is wrong about a foreign country's laws, with notoriously complex immigration law, is that "it would be stupid"

i just feel like i need to point out how stupid these replies are, because if we have no sense of the truth, believing you over the other guy is just as stupid.

stop arguing immigration law online, talk to a lawyer

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We are not arguing immigration law we're arguing about whether or not paying your employees via remote payment services constitutes working.

Obviously it doesn't

And actually no you're incorrect that's not how things work being sensible in online communications is a two-way street and this person isn't being sensible they've put out an utterly ludicrous statement as a possible fact and everyone is calling them out for how utterly ridiculous that statement is. There's no two siding this, they are wrong.

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[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's not work? That's common courtesy! You stay at someones house so you help out.

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[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 16 points 2 days ago

Best to get a lobotomy before going to the US that way they won’t be able to accuse you of trying to work illegally while you’re there. It also has the benefit that you’ll finally be on the same mental level as Trump and his supporters.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I'm sorry, but this is NOT the kind of person I want in prison. AND I don't want prisons profiting off her misery.

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