Screw Steve Jobs for foisting the disposable tech business model upon the world, and screw Trump for depriving us of one of the very few products that stands against that business model.
this post was submitted on 07 Apr 2025
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Can anyone afford their laptops anyway?
my laptop is a 16, so yes. the laptop was never a laptop if you wanted value per dollar, its about minimizing waste due to broken parts and not treating tech as a disposal hardware.
Yeah, I get that. That's why it's frustrating that I really can't afford one.
Meanwhile me with my 17 year old upgraded thinkpad that I got from a bin:
You didn't finish that post. Were you unable to upload an image? Maybe you should get a PC upgrade.
I use a custom made CLI thingy for Lemmy lol, havent gotten around to adding in images. High end core2duo still coated doe.
I was just joking.
I work in the returned leased laptop/desktop/tech good business so im tired of seeing thinkpads because I see them in the thousands. (I also get preferential pricing for them below market price)
They are more expensive than high volume budget laptops but inline with other premium laptops. They aren't unaffordable for working people in developed countries.
If I have another laptop die in rural Australia there is no local repair or replacement. Usually I take a gamble and buy the cheapest shit I can find, accepting it is disposable. I paid premium for the self repair and upgrade options and I will do again.
Well, laptop16 cost 2/3 of my monthly wage here in Sweden (after tax is deducted). And my salary is a fair bit above national average. That's way out of my budget for a laptop, unfortunately.
I've been spending more on laptops in the last 10-15 years, I found that most of the time the difference in quality is worth it.
But I spend hours on my laptop at home every day, so for me it's worth it. If you just use it a few hours a week it's different.
The 16 is expensive. I would never buy one. I would rather upgrade my desktops. It is not unreasonably priced given the unique design but its clearly a premium niche laptop that goes way beyond just repairability. My personal opinion is that they over complicated the design of the 16. Its an amazing design concept but a compromised mass production, mass market device. I expect we will see some lessons from that with the 12" which should be engineered for cost.
The 13" laptops aren't too bad. I bought the cheapest tier DIY and added my own parts a couple of years ago. I want to upgrade some things but I can't justify it. I keep my laptops until they fall apart. I had several held together with tape, with missing keycaps, upgraded ram & ssd and even soldered on replacement ports. I am very tempted to buy a 12" for my kid if the prices are good but if they are more than twice the price of an MSI Modern its going to be a tough sell as an education laptop.
Yes.