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In the first week of January, I received a letter from the Berlin Immigration Office, informing me that I had lost my right of freedom of movement in Germany, due to allegations around my involvement in the pro-Palestine movement. Since I’m a Polish citizen living in Berlin, I knew that deporting an EU national from another EU country is practically impossible. I contacted a lawyer and, given the lack of substantial legal reasoning behind the order, we filed a lawsuit against it, after which I didn’t think much of it.

I later found out that three other people active in the Palestine movement in Berlin, Roberta Murray, Shane O’Brien and Cooper Longbottom, received the same letters. Murray and O’Brien are Irish nationals, Longbottom is American. We understood this as yet another intimidation tactic from the state, which has also violently suppressed protests and arrested activists, and expected a long and dreary but not at all urgent process of fighting our deportation orders.

Then, at the beginning of March, each of our lawyers received on our behalf another letter, declaring that we are to be given until 21 April to voluntarily leave the country or we will be forcibly removed. The letters cite charges arising from our involvement in protests against the ongoing genocide in Gaza. None of the charges have yet led to a court hearing, yet the deportation letters conclude that we are a threat to public order and national security.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 53 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Got banned from Europe@Feddit.org for this posting this there lol.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Germans are always correct when it comes to fascism & genocide; just ask them. /s

Guilt Pride: A German Vanity Project Conquering the World

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Looking at the mod log, it seems you were banned because you called the German authorities Nazis.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I called the genocide supporting German authorities which are deporting protestest 'Nazis'?

How rude of me. I should have thought about how that makes all the genocide supporting Germans feel.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (19 children)

You are aware that this term has quite a different connotation on a primarily German-speaking instance than in most places on the internet? There's nothing wrong with the link you posted. It's the polemics that have gotten you banned, so there's no reason to frame it the way you did.

[–] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe if Germans don't like being called Nazis, they should stop persecuting people for speaking out about a regime that is actively attempting to ethically cleanse and genocide an entire race and culture.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

You would hope those Germans would recognize their government acting like Nazis and agree that their government are being Nazis for deporting people protesting against genocide.

Instead they pick up the Hugo Boss boots and lick them squeaky clean. Absolutely disgusting.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Can you explain how the connotation is different?

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[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 5 points 3 weeks ago

The Germans never really de-Nazified. They opted to support Israel no matter what as the price of readmission into the West.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's kind of a big deal, under German law. So a server hosted in Germany would have to take the word seriously even if they were privately supportive.

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

They just took down the post too, which had no mentions of nazis, so I think they just don't want this subject brought up, just like ml doesn't want Chinese human rights violations brought up.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

Keep up the good work

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I got banned from there for disagreeing with someone who said China practices family annihilation and organ harvesting, lol.

That's Europeans for you I suppose.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

RadioFreeAsia said they had an anonymous source telling them this and RFA is bankrolled by USAID making them a very credible source!

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Lol, not surprised. Though in this case it was some American NGO called "safeguard defenders"

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I got banned in Memes at lemmy.ml, because I mentioned that the USSR wasnt that perfect.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

By "mentioned that the USSR wasn't perfect" you mean "claimed that the USSR forced women to get science degree or be executed."

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Which got mentioned by other commenters which I just repeated.

Researching about this topic, shows that I get the same answers.

If my knowledge is wrong, then it shall be corrected. The only rules in this community was by not being rude and by needing to be nice to each other. And not being pro-communism at all cost.

And banning someone just because he either found something negative about the USSR is kinda stupid. Even when the knowledge is wrong, it should become a discussion where people exchange resources and realise the flaws.

So my context in that discussion was about "Why the USSR isn't perfect like they constantly brag about" as far as I remember.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well here's the thing, obviously what you said isn't true, and obviously you know that if you've done even basic research, so what you're doing is deliberately spreading things you know to be false as a form of trolling.

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Uhm. Like I said, I literally quoted other comments and even good search results saying this to me. Its not trolling if you acyuslly believe it. Just because you hate when someone literally believes something wrong, doesnt mean he is a troll.

And no, a basic research could hide the truth fact, so I could obviously do a deep biased search.

Its obvious that I wasnt trolling. Or else I would literally fight for being right. But no, I was just stating this onto a comment. Thats it. And afterwards I was explaining myself from where I have this knowledge. A troll would literally work differently and never say its from other comments there.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

I mean, you can stop playing dumb now. We both know you don't actually believe that and you haven't found any evidence that it's true. If you had, after all, you'd have presented it, rather than just endlessly going "oh I definitely found lots of evidence, totally!".

So yeah, you're trolling.

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[–] softcat@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

Starting to think a ban from there should be considered a rite of passage.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

Germany is weird, they are like "never forget, we can never let this happen ever again" but also "yes Israel sweety, you can genocide, don't worry, you are special ❤️"

[–] Bobson_Dugnutt@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago
[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

Western free democracy. The EU is definitely the last defence against the fascism of America, only now, after the election of 2024 of course

[–] Arehandoro@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

Germany, the root of all evil.

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 5 points 3 weeks ago

Israel is fast tracking authoritarianism in Europe with the help of their fascist friends in Germany.

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Didnt AFD won in the East of germany? The extremest right party that called Hitler a left wing?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yes but the AfD is basically like the rest of German politicisns but more honest.

[–] undeffeined@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago
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