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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this...)

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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Oh no I was looking for more German flashcard programs (my favorite flashcard website, Seedlang, went down hopefully temporarily) and pretty much everything is forcing AI integrations of some sort.

For example Memrise goes so far as to be condescending and user hostile to people who ask for no AI: https://memrisebeta.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/24937487873937-Can-I-disable-Conversations-the-AI-chatbot

It's not possible to disable the suggestions to do Conversations. [...] So, the reason it might seem like we are pushing conversation exercises is that we truly believe immersion is the key to successfully acquiring a language.

2 out of 19 found this helpful

Well excuse me for wanting to get immersion by talking to actual humans and not your shitty chatbot.

I might have to just use Anki like everyone says (my problem with Anki is I spend more time fiddling with database entries and JavaScript than actually studying)

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 6 days ago

that "immersion" line is the same shit their support gave me ~3y ago when I opened the app and suddenly got a surprise switch to a new UI (which also put that front and center)

nice to see it hasn't at least gotten worse

[–] jaschop@awful.systems 3 points 6 days ago

While browsing some german news media outside my usual territorry (DW and tagesschau), and was fooled by this chameleon of an ad on the front page of WELT (trying for classy, but obvious conservative bias).

The heading means "Bitcoin could protect from inflation". If you want to check out some retail investor shilling in the wild, here you go!

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not strictly related to our normal fare, but it is on a website. HHS has been stepping up their search for snitches on people who provide gender-affirming care to trans kids. I don't know exactly what they're going to do with those reports, but it's feeling real bleak.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 1 points 5 days ago

time to start reporting all those maga restaurants and shit

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 23 points 1 week ago (6 children)

don't want to spam the stubsack with US politics but guys I am awfully scared

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I hear you! If like me you have ever worried that you are overreacting; know that you are not. I have no idea how so many of my coworkers can just treat this all as politics as usual.

My heart breaks for the civilians rounded up and treated as terrorists without due process.

Being transgender I am acutely aware of how close I am to the top of the US autocracy's public enemy list. This is self serving but since January I've been working on getting while the getting is good (plus, I hate that my taxes go to the current federal government).

Me and my three siblings (a librarian, a researcher, and a med student) are all worried for our futures for different reasons; which is statistically just kind of impressive!

[–] mountainriver@awful.systems 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It really looks like it's on an awful trajectory.

In my teens I read about how Leo Szilard took a train out of Germany the day after the Nazis took power. Passed the border before border checks had time to come into force. Seemed obvious then, now I am all to aware of the problems of such a "simple" plan and the ties that binds you, not least family. And of course not knowing in advance how bad it will be, until after. And not knowing if you jump from the ashes and land in the fire, lots of countries are on the same trajectory but further back. Fascism is yet again the choice, the owners choice in the face of climate change.

I'm rambling and it's late. Sympathies and solidarity.

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it is fucking scary. My sympathies and solidarity. Small thing, perhaps a good reminder for everybody to check their opsec (esp if you are an administrator of things, check which data you do not need, or should not fall into the current (or future) us/other fascist administrations hands. And remember while spying on Americans by the various orgs is illegal, trading for information on them with other countries is not. Don't forget backups). It is horrible that it has come to this. One small point of light is that they are fools and can't shut up or be subtle. At least that has a chance to motivate more people to do something, which if it gets to the worst (and it is getting close) more people will actually resist (sadly a lot of people will have to realize that the point becomes not to win, but to impose costs/friction, and any wins are a bonus, which is a horrible realization in itself). Really hope this doesn't make things worse mentally btw.

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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Today in relevant skeets:

::: spoiler transcript Skeet: If you can clock who this is meant to be instantly you are on the computer the perfect amount. You’re doing fine don’t even worry about it.

Quoted skeet: 'Why are high fertility people always so weird?' A weekend with the pronatalists

Image: Egghead Jr. and Miss Prissy from Looney Tunes Foghorn Leghorn shorts.

[–] aninjury2all@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Word of advice to the press: Stop 👏 giving 👏 natalists 👏 free 👏 platforms 👏

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[–] nightsky@awful.systems 20 points 1 week ago

404 media: I Tested The AI That Calls Your Elderly Parents If You Can't Be Bothered

It's a service that makes an AI voice chatbot call your parents daily, so you don't have to, and then it even sends you a notification to your phone with an AI summary of what your parent told the AI.

I really didn't think that people can come up with new AI-based ideas anymore that would astonish me, but there, I was wrong, they did it. This is so cold and fundamentally alienating to me, it reminds me of that recently much-quoted Miyazaki phrase, "an insult to life itself".

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

jesus christ:

transcriptKyle Langford, a 20-something Nick Fuentes acolyte, is running for governor of California on a platform of deporting all male undocumented immigrants and then giving all the females one year to marry a "Californian incel" to avoid deportation.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago

Eminently punchable face

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

previous stubsack guest star Cursor rejoins the show, using a shitty liarsynth to automatically tell users broken behaviour is expected (cw: orange site), followed by people mass-killing their subscriptions

Earlier today Cursor, the magical AI-powered IDE started kicking users off when they logged in from multiple machines. Like,you’d be working on your desktop, switch to your laptop, and all of a sudden you're forcibly logged out. No warning, no notification, just gone.

Naturally, people thought this was a new policy.

So they asked support.

And here’s where it gets batshit: Cursor has a support email, so users emailed them to find out. The support peson told everyone this was “expected behavior” under their new login policy

One problem. There was no support team, it was an AI designed to 'mimic human responses'

haven’t gotten into the replies to look for sneers yet but I bet there will be some

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Posting this as a stub because of reasons

  1. I don't want to do the research on this
  2. This was pulled from the front page of reddit
  3. Connecting these two things is largely tabloid speculation, but funny enough for a stub.

X Is Ditching DMs Hours After News of Musk Messaging Women About Impregnating Them Breaks

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)
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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"In hindsight, CFAR co-founder Anna Salamon told NBC, “we were creating conditions for a cult.”", if only there had been people warning about this, sadly such a club didn't exist. Anyway, im sure this will lead to them reflecting and changing things.

Source "Two Vegan Lovers, an AI ‘Cult,’ and a Trail of Dead Bodies", Archive

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yudkowsky had a gift for making hyperniche concepts accessible.

No, he didn't. His "explanations" are turgid and useless even when they're not just mathematically wrong. They create the feeling of understanding for some readers — those who want their self-image of smartness validated, who imagine that LessWrong is the cool kids' table, and who aren't actually tested on how much they've learned.

Over the course of thousands of pages, rationalist Harry uses logic and decision theory to save the world and defeat Voldemort.

No, he uses his fucking Time Turner.

Snyder seemed to be trying to break through to Yudkowsky with an appeal to his self-importance

OK, zero notes there.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

LessWronger puts in the work and determines that LLMs can't spacially vizualize for shit, comments are like "well you're prompting it wrong" (paraphrased) as well as "why not pay experiences machinists to videotape what they're doing os their work can be automated"

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/r3NeiHAEWyToers4F/frontier-ai-models-still-fail-at-basic-physical-tasks-a#comments

The article itself is worth reading for some insights in the challenges of using current "AI" (LLMs) to work in the real world.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

“why not pay experiences machinists to videotape what they’re doing os their work can be automated”

none of these people had a job in manufacturing, or even possibly any real job, it's called CNC and there are way better tools for making it work than stochastic parrot

e: ok at least op is a machinist

Interestingly, many of these models also score at or above the level of some human experts on visual reasoning benchmarks like MMMU. That which is easy to measure often doesn't correlate with real world usefulness.

benchmarks could be perhaps possibly fucked with? say it aint so!

My high level impression when reading the response is “someone who can parrot textbook knowledge but doesn’t know what they’re talking about”.

with corpus consisting of toy problems only, and with solutions that depending on field can kill whoever uses these

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[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 15 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I got a spam message with a phishing link.... Via Github? Seriously? Are we really doing this?

Not a completely unusual comment.... From the URL it was very obvious that this was a phishing link though. Curiosity got the better of me. The site shows you a "cloudflare" captcha. OK, let's click the checkbox. The usual loading animation starts, then this is shown:

Yeah ok, right....

I'm actually a bit impressed with this, these captchas are so common, I didn't even really think about checking the box. But of course, that interaction means the browser will allow the site to add something to your clipboard.

But like.... Why distribute it via Github? I cannot think of a worse audience to try and con into "paste something random into your windows console". Am I just being naive here? Is this something common I somehow never experienced before?

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

article about the tactics that felon employs against the women bearing his children

features some notable sentences from his fixer, too. the sort of shit that just barely doesn’t qualify as him threatening to top off your kneecaps

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 13 points 1 week ago (6 children)
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