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Hello, is there any social media on this planet that does not ban people for things that are completely legal in all of the European legal systems?

Or is the fediverse the best choice because even though if moderators guide public opinion on the mainstream instances, people can still go to a smaller instance for refuge.

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[โ€“] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 12 hours ago

You're probably better off on a mastodon instance rather than lemmy

[โ€“] tfm@europe.pub 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's the beauty of the Fediverse. You can host your own instance and do whatever you want. But be prepared to be defederated.

[โ€“] androidul@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

what if the defederated instances make a federation of their own? hmm

[โ€“] tfm@europe.pub 16 points 1 day ago

Nice architecture. Isn't it?

[โ€“] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago

Yes, that already happens afaik

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm looking for a place like r/capitalismvsocialism or r/purplepilldebate

Place where people communicate with eachother and nobody gets banned.

I'm quite sick of bubbles. Everyone just sticking with like minded people and removing the rest.

[โ€“] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There's a reason they're called 'communities' on Lemmy. What you see as a bubble, other see as a place of refuge where they're not going to be attacked by people 'just asking questions'.

[โ€“] Wimster@lemmy.wtf 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Well @Leraje, that's exactely what has happend to me. I asked a simple question in another community and get bashed by some people just like you would expect on some other social. Then I said: "I'm out of here" and I unsubscribed and blocked the community. Just to say that there are dipheads here too.

[โ€“] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

" I asked a simple question..."

Without knowing what community it was and what the exact question was, I'm not sure what you're expecting me to say about that.

[โ€“] Wimster@lemmy.wtf 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

That's OK. You don't have to say something about my post. I just wanted to inform you all that on Lemmy there are also haters, keyboard warriors or people that are so depressed that they can't see anything positive in a post, a question or a reply.

[โ€“] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 5 points 13 hours ago

Sounds like you're the problem, if everywhere you going you're getting flak.

[โ€“] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There's a study somewhere that states humans were never meant to have communities above a few hundred, and the bigger we grew the more we lost. I for one am happy with leaving some folk sad they're not allowed back in when they break community rules.

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't say that I share the sentiment of those people. I haven't blocked anyone in my entire life.

[โ€“] femtech@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[โ€“] Tundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

why does race, sexual orientation & gender have to be brought up?

[โ€“] gaael@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Because you are usually subjected to a lot less abuse when you're a ciswhitehetmale in a NW country.
This usually leads to a different need for safe spaces, like-minded communities and blocking people than oppressed groups.

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

I'm a minority (autism), I don't need a safe space.

I need people to stop being authoritarian and communicate with eachother.

If only minorities were authoritarian, then there would be no issue. Since they'd be just a minority. It wouldn't be noticed.

It's clearly the majority that deal the blow. Logical, right?

[โ€“] MrPoletki@feddit.uk 1 points 20 hours ago

It's the modern day equivelant of a/s/l

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 1 points 23 hours ago

yep, my family has been living here in Belgium for a very long time.

[โ€“] tfm@europe.pub 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why not start your own Lemmy instance? If people are interested into that, they'll join.

[โ€“] MemmingenFan923@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How complex is this? And how much does it cost per month to host your own instance?

[โ€“] slazer2au@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Not overly hard if you can work a Linux cli.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible

As for costs, will that depends on how many users, what hardware you run it on, and the yearly domain.

Several instances are on single circuit board PC's like Raspberry Pi with an attached USB HDD.

[โ€“] tfm@europe.pub 1 points 1 day ago

You should definitely be working in IT at least. Don't forget that you are responsible for personal data from your users.

Price-wise it's not that expensive to host a Lemmy instance. A few hundred users cost you 20 to 30 euros a month.

[โ€“] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Generally speaking, I've found Lemmy to be far less accepting of different viewpoints than either Twitter or Reddit in their heyday. The echo chamber is extremely strong here, even though the "correct" narrative is different.

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I vote left wing, but left wingers in general are less accepting of freedom of expression. That's my experience.

[โ€“] Tundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I feel the same, but right wingers also arent exactly very accepting either. Try talking about the climate crisis (which should be apolitical) or workers rights and you will see what I mean.

maybe its not a political issue, its just bigotry?

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee -2 points 20 hours ago

They ramble on and on, but they don't want the other person to be banned. They just think the other person is really really stupid.

I prefer that instead of authoritarianism to be honest.

[โ€“] edvardgm@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

Yee, banning people who have a reason to look the way they do, will make the world a worse place. Soon the right activities bubble will burst

[โ€“] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think Discord is pretty lenient on everything. They're an US company though. Also Telegram, that's what all the conspiracy theorists use, I think they don't moderate a lot. That one is founded by Russians, and registered on the British Virgin islands.

I think they both technically fit your requirements, but I wouldn't recommend any of them. You can also use traditional internet forums or the Fediverse. They're all moderated by the people themselves. With varying rules on what you're allowed to post.

I mean if you just want to discuss politics, society and philosophy, without spreading hate and misinformation... You'd be welcome here, we do those kinds of things on Lemmy.

[โ€“] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Telegram disallows all sexual content, legal or not.

[โ€“] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Really? Are you sure this isn't just a restriction for people who download the app from the Apple store, or who live in islamic countries? The TOS they display to me specifically mention illegal pornographic content. But I've never used it, so I don't really know.

[โ€“] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 0 points 13 hours ago

I'm starting to think this guy is not trying to make a community about politics or legal porn.

[โ€“] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It might have started with Apple, but basically now they continuously take down public groups that contain sexual content, as soon as they find them. Of course I'm sure it's a losing game of wackamole...

[โ€“] MrPoletki@feddit.uk 1 points 10 hours ago