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[-] AYJANIBRAHIMOV@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 2 years ago
[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago

those sure are some tall rocks

[-] gramsci_clone@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago

imagine throwing a rock from that cliff...

[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Looking at that I had a feeling that it was in Asia, and I was right!

[-] juchebot88@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So apparently while this Prigozhin soap opera was going on, the Ukrainians: lost 800 men, had another ammunition depot destroyed by Russian airstrikes, and brought the total number of tanks lost during the counteroffensive up to a whopping 246 (Russian MOD statistics, supposedly taken from intercepted Ukrainian transmissions).

[-] CommieBeetle@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

Welcome to the new Cold War era! Where everything is a psyop... or maybe it isn't... you can never now for sure!

[-] Spanish_Commie@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

I had someone pirate my switch 👍

Fuck Nintendo best 60€ I've ever spent

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[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

Nothing like accidentally destroying a highly valuable and potentially irreplaceable piece of work equipment and getting shat on for your professional performance in the span of an hour

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago
[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Not really. We'll see how hard we'll get ratfucked for these things. Thanks though

[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago

This too shall pass.

[-] juchebot88@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago

That sucks for sure, comrade. Hope things get better soon.

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago

I'll be spending three weeks in Basque Country soon. Mainly for holiday but being the leftist I am, I'll also want to see if I can visit and talk to some of the people there about working in co-ops. I know co-ops aren't the only way to go but I'm always impressed by the Basque Country story. I hope I can learn something.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago

I'm sure I heard that they do a qualification/degree/training course in co-ops… could be worth looking into either ahead of time or when you're there.

[-] AmerikaLosesWW3@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago

Unlike reddit there are no CIA agents here, right?

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 years ago

Everyone is a CIA agent over here

[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

speak for yourself, I'm MI6

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago

Ello guvner, noice bo'eh o' wo'eh ye go' there

[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Brits still nervous about the yanks getting their T.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Practically indistinguishable from the infiltrated population.

[-] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I’m only employed by CSIS :(

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

FSB agent interning at the NSA here

[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Currently I am replaying Deus Ex, a cyberpunk first‐person shooter highly influenced by classic conspiracy theories. I can really appreciate the story as a grown‐up, and there is one particular scene that I had always glossed over until replaying it now…

Mid‐story spoilers for Deus ExThere is one particular character, Walton Simons, who is remarkably two‐faced. When you read the lore (newspapers, e‐mails and such), Simons, being the supposed director of FEMA, comes across as a caring, concerned, and responsible individual who (falsely) reassures the public that scientists are hard at work developing a cure for the latest pandemic, and that while he doesn’t know what is going on he is doing everything that he can to help stop the virus that is taking countless lives.

The reality is something else…

In case you are having trouble reading the text:

Walton Simons: ‘Captain Zhao. The helicopters will be there shortly. They are to be loaded for spraying of the virus. No delays. I want the helicopters operating before sunrise.

This scene was where I could actually feel my stomach churn, not necessarily due to the character himself, but because I feel like I know individuals who are exactly like this: the unidentified perpetrators of the very atrocities that they publicly declare to be at work reducing.

It’s possible that this is simply a coincidence (even though the writers of Deus Ex clearly did their homework), but we do have nonfictional examples of U.S. authorities spraying a virus on cities, to which I’ll link outside of this spoiler.


On a more serious note, how many of us are aware that U.S. authorities tested biological weapons on thousands of unwitting citizens?

[-] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I knew about the nuclear tests to see how fallout would affect humans; I knew nothing about biological testing holy fuck

[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

There are three monochrome medical photos here, but that’s where I learned about these procedures, and you can find out more about them from that link.

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[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago
[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago
[-] Oppo@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago

I hope you all have a nice week :D

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago

You too Oppo 🙋

[-] Binkie55@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

History is back

[-] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I've been getting blocked on Twit like crazy lately. Most of the time it's after one (1) reply that's not even harsh. I'm not one to say that people have thin skin, but holy shit getting the "last word" just because you decided to cut the other person out of the conversation doesn't mean you won.

Some people really don't like getting push back.

[-] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Someone needs to physically go to Blizzard headquarters, gain access to their account system and remove my license for Diablo 4. I have lost far too much time to this game in the past couple of weeks shit is too addicting. Fantastic game though I’d say, already better in every way compared to D3.

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

How does it compare to D2?

[-] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Still very different games I would say. A lot of people will probably still prefer D2 but I think 4 does a good job of expanding upon systems and adding complexity missing in D3 while still keeping things streamlined.

I think also they achieve the D2 sort of atmosphere much more but it still isn’t quite the same. I haven’t really properly played D2 in well over a decade though so I could be off base.

[-] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

My problem is I need someone who isn't Blizzard to make a Diablo-clone that doesn't try to stick its hands in my wallet every half an act. Kotick's still there, and I will not have that bloated parasite getting even a buck richer off me.

[-] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

That's more than reasonable, completely agree. I wasn't intending to buy the game either but a friend got it for me as a surprise birthday gift so figured I had no choice but to enjoy it.

Would love more Diablo clones in general, not even sure I've played one other than the first Torchlight. Something more linear and co-op focused would be ideal if anyone is listening.

[-] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

In those cases, at least it wasn't your money...

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For some reason I keep thinking of a scene in the last episode of Ted Lasso. The “diamond dogs” have gathered and Roy asks if people can change. They just stand there in silence for seemingly a long time. I cringe the whole time I watch it. I’m just thinking “obviously people can change. Change is one of the most certain thing in the universe. You are not the same person you were a millisecond ago. Why is everyone so doubtful about the concept of change?” Edit: here’s the scene

[-] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Is this show worth watching ? I’m a religiously devout football supporter/watcher and have had it recommended to me often but it’s always looked… kinda stupid ? I guess scenes like that is the sorta writing I’m concerned about lol

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It’s funny at times, but your time is probably spent better elsewhere. The show seems to go to great lengths to humanize rich people. No one faces non-interpersonal problems because they’re all too rich. In other words it’s bourgeois propaganda. The only person who is unequivocally bad is some African billionaire who acts like a spoiled child, but luckily the billionaire protagonist gives a rousing speech reminding a bunch of rich old white guys that they like football and not him. They sort of try to touch politics, but the extent to that goes is “don’t mess with fascists online or they’ll send their goons on your petty booj ass.” The problem with the person someone is newly dating throwing money at them is not that children are starving and that money should go to something that actually matters (you can’t become a billionaire ethically), it’s because it will make your relationship artificial. The show is needlessly long with too many plot points. I could go on in my rant, but I think I’ve made my point.

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago

in other words it’s bourgeois propaganda

Oh so that's why my family likes it and keeps recommending it

[-] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Bee-haws survey came out, has anyone else seen it/ would anyone be interested in a highlight comparison between us and them?

[-] CommieBeetle@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Sometimes ultras give me the impression that the only country being imperialized by China is Philippines.

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Who would win? A targeted CIA campaign to cause leftist infighting or the existence of one zoomie boy?

[-] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

My money is on the CIA, they have a track record

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