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I’m stuck with what to choose. I prioritise speed and privacy

I guess i'm doing pros and cons for all of them now:

Startpage Pros - uses google's search results and anonymous view, eu based Cons - Bought my an ad company

Qwant Pros - eu based Cons - lots of ads, sometimes a bug where it is in france

DDG pros - faster than the other two, Cons - https://techrights.org/o/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/

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[–] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i used to use startpage before switching to searxng and its pretty good just the mobile app they beckon you to download is garbage and just chromium with a startpage paint job over it but if you just want the search engine for another browser its prob one the best

[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What instance would you recommend?

[–] standarduser@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Not the OG, but I tried instances for awhile. After about two months I decided to self host it. The best instances for testing, imo, would be ones that have IPv6 on and nearest to your location for the host. They are aggregators so its tracking will be limited to the host of it. Even then, it’s a worthwhile test but self hosting can be as easy as installing docker, making a docker hub account, and pulling the prebuilt searxng image and going to the set port. That’s easiest way if you have reservation about data, but don’t have the time to configure the whole thing.

[–] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

i host my own but if you cant do that id reccoment one of the ones with the V html grade and with good uptime

[–] Tundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Leta gave me very bad results

[–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm a fan of DDG still for now. But would love to hear your final decision and the logic behind it when you decide.

[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I do like DDG, but it feels like its getting more bloated, furthermore I would prefer a EU based service rather than an american one. sorry but this might put you off ddg https://techrights.org/o/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/

[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago
[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't really, it truly depends on the browser but my go to computer browser is librewolf which uses startpage

[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

did librewolf change it from ddg???

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Qwant doesn't prioritize privacy very well, besides leaning on its European-ness. Their privacy policy does not engender trust with me.

https://lemm.ee/comment/19796261

[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Crikey, thats not good

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Of the three mentioned, maybe Qwant? I'm wary of any search engine that implements "AI", so DDG is out. Startpage — I can't provide a source, but I seem to recall there were misgivings to them in the past.

[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Out of all of the three, I would say startpage is the cleanest. DDG has had a fair few controversies https://techrights.org/o/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/ . So I think they are off the list atm, I may consider brave search but I'm not sure.

[–] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Startpage is owned by an adtech company, i don't trust them.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'd say none will be private in the long term. Acquisitions ultimately break that eventually. It's hard to run a successful service and not get acquired, eventually. So, I have a self-hosted searxng instance. DDG has already started moving away from privacy and Startpage has some signs it might be moving that way in the near future. I'll let others comment on the current state of things at each, but if you give your search to any profit driven company it has the potential to be sold. But IMHO Qwant is currently the best option outside of metasearch engines with small nonprofit ownership, whoch can be unreliable, or self hosting.

[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Qwant has some reasonable privacy concerns its self as it sends your ip and stuff etc to microsoft.

[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

how to find a good searxng instance, as all the ones i have found are rubbish (self hosting isnt an option.)

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://searx.space/

Problem is that if a site gets too popular, then the search engines like google tend to start rate limiting. Before in started self hosting I jumped around every couple of months to a new server.

[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I have found one I somewhat like but after looking further I found 4get.ch or something like that, it’s results where better the searx and it looked nicer and it’s quicker

[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought self hosting a searxng instance was like really bad due to you being the only user on it?

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

What's wrong with being the only one on it?

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Startpage. Qwant's kinda shit, and DDG is known to have sub-par results, as well as being American.

[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Startpage is owned by an ad agency

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] lopar49@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Haven’t really tried it but it isnt privacy friendly?