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[-] Smoothie_Criminal@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

Hillary stole Bernie's nomination and robbed Americans of his presidency

[-] Tigbitties@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago
[-] kokoapadoa@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Because of America's dogshit election system, she won the popular vote.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'd give anything to go back in time and see how that election goes differently with an Approval Vote.

[-] justhach@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Honestly, a candidate like Trump was not an "if" but a "when".

Even if the Dems had won that election, history has shown they they would not have made any real.changes. They would have done nothing to try and prevent something like the Trump Presidency from happening. They wouldnt have tried to fix the rigged gerrymandered districts, they wouldn't have pushed for voting reform, they wouldn't have tried to call put the insane rhetoric being put out by right wing propaganda machines, and they wouldn't have instilled better checks and balances on the presidency that relied on more than the assumtions of common decency, respect, and tradition.

Nah, they would have rested on their laurels for electing the first female president, and be caught with their pants down when the GOP successfully harnessed the resentment of angry white men for being "under the rule" of a black muslim socialist for eight years, and a satanic pedophile child eating woman for 4.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Even if the Dems had won that election, history has shown they they would not have made any real.changes.

THREE Supreme Court justices would have been very different today. Thats going two have repercussions for the next 3 generations.

[-] Drusas@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Hillary didn't rob him of it; the Democratic Party robbed him of it.

And then Biden did it 4 years later.

See the pattern? Combined with all the "left" side of democrats support for US imperialism.

Bernie and people like him ain't gonna change shit, not any more in the future that they did in a past decades. It's time to radicalise way beyond him and the lukewarm electoral socialdemocracy, the only thing that can change something for the better, and did in the past, is the organised working class.

[-] Hypersapien@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It was the Democratic establishment and the corporate media that stole it. The biggest thing they fear is a candidate that puts the American people over corporate interests.

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

....And then they mostly couldn't be bothered to actually get college degrees despite how cheap they were, yet still ended up with good careers capable of supporting entire households with only one person working anyway.

Despite his cynicism, even Bernie manages to understate the problem here!

[-] wwaxwork@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Just throwing out there, this was one generation out of however many to the dawn of time that was able to do this. And they did it on the backs of the hundreds of thousands of people that fought, starved and died to get unions established. For the vast majority of history, if you could work you worked man, woman & child because if you didn't your family starved. Then people fought for generations to get unions established and they finally did it and one single generation got the advantages of it before the next generation decided they didn't need no stinking unions as they were working white collar jobs and here we are. We're not standing together so we're falling together.

[-] BornVolcano@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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Bernie Sanders, @BernieSanders

The Boomer generation needed just 306 hours of minimum wage work to pay for four years of public college. Millennials need 4,459.

The economy today is rigged against working people and young people. This is what we are going to change.


^I'm a human volunteer transcribing posts in a format compatible with screen readers, for blind and visually impaired users!^

[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago
[-] Discoslugs@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Bernie sanders screaming into the wind yet again.

Bernie i love ya but nobody is gonna do the things you say.

They are way too reasonable.

[-] ItchySunItchyKnee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Isn’t that kind of defeatist?

I don’t really have a horse in this race since I am not from the US.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's more cynicism than defeatism. People from the United States have pushed for these kinds of common sense reforms for our entire lives and we still have nothing to show for it.

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[-] QRay@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Can we keep the timestamp in when cropping a post from another website?

[-] NOPper@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

7:29 AM · Apr 24, 2019 for the record.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Fyi A full time job is 2080 hrs a year (40hrs/wk x 52 weeks).

[-] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just use 2000 hours. It makes the math easier, plus anybody who doesn't get (at least!) two weeks of vacation with their full-time job is a chump who needs to unionize anyway.

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[-] HiddenTower@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That is what we are going to change

Then do it! I feel like I've heard this for so long, from all the parties, and just nothing gets done.

[-] cjsolx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Do you realize who tweeted that? Because I feel like asking Bernie Sanders to just "do it" is very unfair. He's been fucking trying for the past decade.

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[-] ThesePaycheckAvenging@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's always good to focus on buying power. I bet you would get similarly ridiculous numbers when valuing food or housing in some normalized work hours (doesn't have to be minimum wage, could be median income too).

[-] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
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[-] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is very smart of him to use generational terminology to engage with young voters. He's looking at trends on social media. Maybe it will work for him. His main obstacle is that most democrats are moderate and don't have a problem voting republican if they think the democrat is too far to the left. Maybe engaging with young voters in this way can help him get over that obstacle.

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