"The only one allowed to launder money and sell crypto is me"
-Telegram
this post was submitted on 15 May 2025
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Funny how they operated on open-ish, centralized, highly accessible social media, yet Telegram has basically zero liability for hosting it, and seemingly little motivation to seek out such things.
It’s almost like trusting commercial social media to be decent arbiters, in exchange for their legal protection, isn’t working out so well…
Telegram has basically zero liability for hosting it
Not sure if you heard the news but the founder was put in jail for it for a while. He's now complying with gov requests to remove chat groups.
Whole place glows like it's bioluminescent at this point.
A shame really.
I really liked being able to buy Monero with PayPal on LocalMarket and sellers always used TG, bit of a scam exchange rate wise but well worth it for small domestic DNM orders without fucking with KYC data harvesting ops like exchanges etc. and then have to mess with atomic swaps and whatnot just because the gov't fascists-in-chief used my taxes to ban BTC ATMs from back in the day.
I imagine the sellers used this to launder money they made as vendors on DNMs or some such enterprise.
I know some of these words
monero (xmr) is an untraceable cryptocurency
TG is a bank
KYC means know your costumer
atomic swaps are a way of buying some crypto for other crypto
DNMs I think are darknet markets
TG is Telegram but you got the rest of it right
Go Bisq or RetoSwap, there are Simplex channels too
Ty
interested in how were you using paypal without kyc?
I made a PayPal account like 20 years ago in a third world country. The only thing you needed then is an email and password.
I have no real name on there and no PII, technically my bank card is attached but on PP itself there's no KYC. I think you could probably use some types of prepaid cards with it if you want to avoid using a bank altogether but for me this wasn't an issue, I just didn't want my ID on any records, I don't have any serious OpSec concerns otherwise.
I'm sure you could either buy PayPal accounts like this if you needed to, or make one in a country that doesn't have KYC laws somehow.
From there I'd add money to my balance and send money as F&F. At no point did I need an ID so in that sense there's no KYC.
Some sellers on localmarket were fancy enough to list that they wanted an ID for KYC, but I'm sure you could just send them any random ID you made in paint from the republic of dave and you'd be fine.
I wanna know too
Whole plays glows
You mean “[the] whole place glows?”
Yeah sorry already edited the comment. Feels like my grammar has gone to shit lately.
It’s fine, I’ve just seen a lot of weird comments today so I was starting to wonder if they’re generated comments somehow.
could we get a how-to from you about buying Monero and atomic swaps and all that?
Step one seems to be "find a new market" now that you cant use this one anymore.
why not? any alternative to mining at home?
Can't say I'm upset here.