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[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Did they train something on an actors voice, or use the actors voice recordings without contractual permission?

OR:

Did they use an AI voice and some filters to make the character talk without hiring an actor?

Because if it's the second, who cares? If it's the first, they should be raked over the coals.

[–] SaucySnake@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They had permission to use an AI trained on James Earl Jones's Darth Vader voice granted by his estate, SAG is pissed they used it instead of hiring someone to imitate it.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

If JEJ granted voice rights, then that's peachy. Nobody owes someone else that job. Sounds like JEJ locked it down.

The idea that actors are required to be hired is kind of nonsense. Every industry has had to deal with less people required to produce the same amount of output. At this point, JEJ voice of Darth Vader IS Darth Vader. I can understand the studio wanting to retain that. Replacing voice actors is often jarring for the viewer.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago

The idea that actors are required to be hired is kind of nonsense.

They aren't required to hire actors, but in this case they had a contractual agreement with the union to negotiate before doing this.

Also, the logical conclusion to this trend is to do away with all actors since sooner or later, AI will just be able to create characters out of thin air and then why pay anybody? I'd personally rather there be some restrictions on it.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

JEJ is dead, dude. His estate cut a deal with epic.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

As is their right. His estate, or him personally, doesn't matter.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

I hope his estate gets kickbacks from his likeness being used.

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah replacing voice actors is super annoying. Everytime i rewatch atla and we get to the final season it bothers me. they had to replace iroh's voice actor it sounds so bad and forced.

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

SAG-AFTRA said it celebrated the rights of artists - such as James Earl Jones' estate - to use digital replicas, but said Epic Games did so "without providing any notice of their intent to do this and without bargaining with us over appropriate terms."

I had chosen that source just for the best headline for the meme, but turns out it also had a succinct answer to your question. Jones’ estate consented but SAG claims the way Epic went about implementing it violates contracts between Epic and SAG.

[–] nickwitha_k 8 points 1 month ago

With the video game industry's history of unfair labor practices, the burden of proof for credibility that this did not violate contract is on Epic.

[–] Xttweaponttx@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Dude is that meme format your own, OP?? 🤣 first time seeing it and it's fucking amazing - hella kutos if that's your own work!!

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

The bottom image? No, that’s some unknown artist’s photoshop that has been floating around the internet for a few years.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago
[–] Sat@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah these guys are getting "better" by the minute, after all the Genshin drama.