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I think they should at least give console players the choice between 4k 30 fps or 1080p 60 fps Let's be realistic here, 4k 60fps for a game of this size in this engine will require a BEEFY machine, nothing a current gen console can offer.

Oh come on Todd, if there's headroom you could've at least give an option to run it at 40 fps

Not a deal breaker for this kind of game but a 60fps performance mode on series x at 1080p would’ve been a nice option.

Playing TOTK right now on switch and it really proves how great games can overcome technical limitation. A masterpiece at 30fps is still a masterpiece. Here’s hoping Starfield can deliver as a great game first and foremost.

The game isn't even out yet and it is already a disappointment

So on a series X you are forced to run it at 4k?

As someone who doesnt mind 30fps, there shouldnt be games running at 30 on new gen hardware anymore lol

I love how Microsoft said that with their exclusive titles they'll only have to focus on one console and as such the performance will be better. Now here we are and seemingly all of these titles run at 30 FPS. I just hope they will offer a performance option if it is run on a lower resolution. Having these options is exactly what keeps me on the PC platform.

Part of me hopes that they do a demo or open beta or something so that we can see what it's like at 30fps

I'm curious about this kind of thing from an engine and console architecture perspective. Any gamedevs able to shed some light?

I work in the industry, but not directly on low-level engine implementation details. Personally, my gut thinking is that the Creation Engine is falling behind in terms of modern asset streaming techniques.

Similarly, I wonder if a lack of strong virtualized geometry / just-in-time LOD generation tech could be a huge bottleneck?

From what I understand, efforts like Nanite in UE5 were an enormous engineering investment for Epic, and unless Bethesda has a massive engine team of their own (they don't), they simply won't be able to benefit from an in-house equivalent in tech.

Ultimately, I do think the lack of innovation in the Creation Engine is due to internal technical targets being established as "30FPS is good enough", with frame times below 33ms being viewed as "for those PC gamers with power to spare."

I'm curious about this kind of thing from an engine and console architecture perspective. Any gamedevs able to shed some light?

I work in the industry, but not directly on low-level engine implementation details. Personally, my gut thinking is that the Creation Engine is falling behind in terms of modern asset streaming techniques.

In an imaginary world where I've poured over Bethesda's engine source for days, I wonder if I might discover that:

• Asset formats and/or orchestration code used for asset streaming in the Creation Engine are not optimized to a degree where scene graphs can be effectively culled based on camera frustum or player proximity without noticeable dips in frame-time. It simply takes too long to pause actor simulations or too long to stream assets back into memory and reintroduce objects to the scene graph

• Virtualized geometry or other magical low-overhead auto-LOD solutions aren't in place. As far as I understand it, efforts like Nanite in UE5 were an enormous engineering investment for Epic, and unless Bethesda has a massive engine team of their own (they don't), they simply won't be able to benefit from an in-house equivalent in tech