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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Use this as your "fascism has actually taken over" moment if you need one still. Its past time to get serious about our Democracy.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

They're immediately letting them go on scene, the more disturbing part of this is that they're serving as security details for ICE Nazis.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Anyone still clinging to the idea that fascism/authoritarianism is "on it's way" rather that "it's here right fucking now" is simply willfully ignorant, so much an asshole as to be entirely irredeemable, lying, not paying attention, or just fucking too stupid.

In other words, the straight, white, right-kind-of-Christian, fascist base.

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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago

I wish more people agreed.

I have a pretty small social circle, but they are all very progressive, very against what is going on right now. Still, I am the only one planning to go to a No Kings protest. I'm the only one who went to the Hands Off protest. It's not encouraging.

[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The best protest is still a general strike. Even if just the people who can afford it all stop working for just a few days, the economic impact would scare the ruling class into compliance. A few million in collective action attacking their precious stock market will bring them to heal quickly.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Or they ramp up and buy the dip.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

They're going to start shooting very soon. And Americans don't have the stomach for the years of passive resistance that will be required.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And Americans don’t have the stomach for the years of passive resistance that will be required.

You're imagining organized people coordinating to work towards long term goals nationwide...

That's not what would happen. People would just progressively lose it and start crashing out. People can still rationalize that compliance might work out best for them for now.

But if they start killing people for resisting despite not knowing who they're even detaining...

That makes it hard to deny that compliance is pointless. And after that it doesn't take much for entire communities to make the jump to proactive defense.

trump's not raiding cartel safehouses, he's going after harmless workers. So that shows everyone that using violence to resist makes them prioritize others. But some of those harmless workers have kids who were born here and are legal citizens. But they're Americans, and Americans are rarely harmless

Hell, look at how gangs took over the projects in Chicago, they'd straight up have snipers 24/7 and if any cops showed up, it didn't take much for the cops to leave. Like, when push comes to shove, trump can't just bomb downtown LA, and occupying America is practically impossible, even for the American military.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

trump can't just bomb downtown LA

I wish I could believe this.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I mean. Even typing it I was remembering Philly PD doing it...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing

But that was 40 years ago and was easily swept under the rug.

While he could order it to happen, and it's technically possible every obeys that order...

Actually pulling it off would virtually guarantee every major city being 100x worse than LA has ever been, even 92 LA. Hell, that only took a decade to beat in Cincinnati. It would be trillions of dollars in infrastructure damage alone, not even getting into lost revenue.

Any attempt to use feds everywhere would spread them too thin and make them ineffective everywhere.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I was thinking Tulsa/greenwood when I wrote the comment, but move/philly was in the back of my mind

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Remember, trump said blue states would "disappear off the map" before his midterm 'surprise'

I was reticent about the idea before, but had mentioned it as a terrifying possibility. But, at this point, I would have to consider it likely that he would do much worse than a silly little bomb.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Trump is fundamentally deranged. By this time next year, he will be publicly floating the idea of nuking resistance strongholds.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

He definitely can. We just don't know if he will. Probably not anytime soon.

[–] TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Passive is not getting this done

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Americans don’t have the stomach for the years of passive resistance

Oh, buddy...

We're way past passive...

If there is to be any saving of the remnants of US democracy, much more that "passive" is required.

Passive/complacent is exactly how we got where we are.

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

That's just going to get a lot of people harmed. We can't win by fighting. We're outmanned, outgunned, out-teched.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

They dont get paid enough to sacrifice their humanity.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And then he corrected himself.

[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)