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I'm here because it's eventually going to be the better alternative.

FOSS by its nature, will keep on improving. And proprietary bloatware, by its nature, will only gonna get worse.

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[–] MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I’ve only been here a few days, but I genuinely think the Fediverse is the future of social media. It’s not yet polished, but the potential of it all was an epiphany when I finally understood it. I’d forgotten what the real Internet was.

[–] gamma@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago

It was about two years ago that Matrix finally stuck for me, and while I actually tried using Mastodon, I don't like following people. Hashtags help, but it's not the same as a community.

For the topics I want to engage in, the critical mass is already here.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

And the users control it not some corporate entity. There will be no ads, no tracking and no shareholders. The revolution will not be televised

[–] risottinopazzesco@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago

Fuck yes, could not phrase it better. I had forgotten what the Internet was.

[–] kronicmage@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The year of the fediverse can't come soon enough

[–] notun@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It should come right after year of the Linux.

[–] necrxfagivs@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Then we're doomed. I use linux (Fedora) as my daily drive, but I don't see it becoming more popular than Windows in the near future.

[–] upperleft@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The Linux Desktop has been improving by leaps and bounds over the last few years.

More popular than the OS with majority market share is an unrealistically high bar for success. I could totally see linux become a mainstream desktop OS at some point.

[–] necrxfagivs@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

It's definitely growing, but is still mainly used by techie people. Lots of people are still afraid of the command line or remember how was Linux +10 years ago. We'll have to do our part!

[–] heimur@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Gaming is the biggest thing that prevents me from switching entirely to Linux, unfortunately

[–] necrxfagivs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It was my main concern, so I dualboot (my main drive 500gb SSD runs Fedora while I have another SSD of 1TB with Windows 10).

Most games I play are running flawless on fedora (rn I'm playing No Mans Sky), as most Steam Games (you can check protondb for your favorite titles) and I've been more than a month without booting windows, but other titles as Fortnite can't run on Linux.

For your games on Epic and GOG you can use Heroic Launcher. Gaming on Linux is getting easier on daily basis.

[–] heimur@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's really coolβ€”thanks for the insight! I might have to look into that one day. I'm already using three hard drives, and nothing would prevent me from having Linux on one of them. One last question if you don't mind, how do you handle spreadsheets? I have to admit I'm quite experienced (read: locked in) with Microsoft Excel, which I do use for personal things regularly. Do you use Open Office (which has never grown on me), Google Sheets, something else? I guess that could also be a case of booting up Windows but it feels a bit cumbersome just for that.

[–] necrxfagivs@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Also, you can always try Linux first in a Virtual Machine (for example VirtualBox) to get a feeling of it without altering your hard drives, I started that way!

Regarding spreadsheets, I use LibreOffice Calc. Is not as feature rich as Excel but for me it gets the job done. I'm not sure if it works, but maybe you can set up a Windows Virtual Machine in Linux to use excel in it.

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[–] randomperson@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Gaming on Linux is still far from perfect as for example lack of proper Game Pass hurts a lot. Nevertheless it's way better than I thought 3-4 years ago it would ever be. Valve is doing amazing work with Proton and Steam Deck is surprisingly compatible with almost anything I throw at it.

[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I think with handhelds becoming more and more viable, and thus hopefully more popular, steamOS and other distro's will be a must because of the god awfull windows handheld support. And with more people using them, they will also get better over time.

[–] End0fLine@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago

I want to hope for just a wee bit faster than that.

[–] ilikespookystories@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 1 points 2 years ago

based on the same concepts as email, you pick your provider (instance) and you can get messages from anyone using a provider supporting the protocol. The naming system is similar @@instance and !@instance

[–] croobat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You are in your house, I am in mine. But we can still watch movies together through your window.

This is how I watch all my movies now, I had to find a way that Netflix can't crack down on

[–] Dreadino@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

What I am not understanding is the concept of logging in another server. I created an account on feddit.it, can I use this account to login in a mastodon website? Or does it work the other way around, with me just using the feddit.it website (like I'm doing right now) to consume content from other instances? With the second option, if feddit.it goes down, my account is done, right?

That's what I think happens but I'd like to know too

[–] Azzu@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago

You do everything from your home server.

So you're at feddit.it, instead of going to https:/lemmy.world/c/lemmy.world you go to https://feddit.it/c/lemmy.world@lemmy.world

I don't know how posting between mastodon and lemmy works.

And yes, if your instance dies, your account is gone. Mastodon has a "transfer account to another instance" feature, but Lemmy does not yet, but I'm pretty sure redundancy in some form is planned.

[–] croobat@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Your account credentials are the keys to your house, you can only enter to your own house (server/instance) with your keys, but can watch through everyone's window (the owner of your house can block some specific windows tho).

So your second assessment is correct, and yeah I think if the server goes down your data in that instance may be lost. It shouldn't pass long time before some migration account feature (mastodon already has one).

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 0 points 2 years ago

Great ELI5, thanks.

[–] ndr@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I don't think Lemmy has good support for viewing Mastodon content (unlike kbin), but you can view/follow users, threads and comments from Lemmy on Mastodon by searching @whateveryouwant@instance

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] cellador@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago

That's the best explanation I have seen so far.

[–] sparky@lemmy.pt 0 points 2 years ago

This is really good. When Reddit un-blacks out I am going to replace all my comments with "Left for Lemmy" and a link to this image.

[–] A2PKXG@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's all quite cool. But what confuses me is that people can use mastadon to follow the lemmyverse.

[–] JohannesOliver@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

They all use the same protocol, but developers pick and choose features and how they are presented. They may be able to talk to each other but the experience also may not be ideal, especially if they use different features in different ways. For example, until a few days ago kbin upvotes didn’t show up in Lemmy at all, and Lemmy upvotes did not show as upvotes in kbin, because they used different features to describe them (kbin used boosts, which exist in Mastodon but are not implemented in Lemmy).

[–] Aurix@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I would not agree with the general statement about FOSS. Some commercial products absolutely do edge out the free ones. And I am not sure it is only the limited funding, seeing the usability issues with Linux. I think Linus Tech Tips video series was a nice insight.

But for social platforms I do not even see a different way. FOSS is a must, especially with the inherent bias of algorithms. Commercial third party clients still could be beneficial.

[–] ChosenUndead15@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

About Linux, I feel Con Kolivas, a former Linux kernel dev said is very accurate. There could be a bug in the kernel that causes desktop use case go to a crawl or freeze can be ignored for years, but Oracle reports there is a bug in the server usecase that causes a 0.5% of performance lost once per month and the same day it will be fixed.

Enterprise use simply eclipse the focus of the devs to regular people use. Which just only highlights even more why the desktop experience improved so rapidly when Valve decided they wanted Linux for gaming. Simply there wasn't anyone that cared for the end user experience and wasn't running their own fork (yes, I am talking about Google).

[–] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 0 points 2 years ago

How many of those commercial products are more than 1/2 FOSS though.

Really what we are talking about is last mile code really, yes that can cost money but I think its on the way, I remember when linux was unusable as a desktop.

I said it 20 years ago and I still believe it now, its not possible to monetize a social network to be both profitable and vibrant. Social networks are like public transit, at best you can hope to break even, maintaining the commons is just part of being in this world. We can't sit around and expect others to do it for us.

[–] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm about utility. Online social engagement is a need. People who can't connect need a way to connect. This is a public utility, a social service. It needs to be streamlined, free, and as open as possible to anyone who wishes to participate.

It is a human right to connect. We shouldn't hide it beind any paywall, ad, company, entity or outside will. People have a right to enter the room, speak and listen without being attacked by anything.

Normally I'd just ask you to go outside and touch grass but I agree with you after the whole shitshow

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think Linux usability is very good. The problem is the vast majority of Linux distros aren't great.

I switched to Fedora from windows a year or two ago, I'll never look back.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

Same but Zorin OS.

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