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New evidence suggests that Iran successfully compromised Israel’s vaunted air defense systems during recent attacks — forcing Tel Aviv to fire on its own positions. How?

Iran overwhelmed Israeli defenses by breaching the data transmission and correction system early in flight, explains military expert and historian of the Air Defense Forces Yuri Knutov.

"Based on the footage that was released, it seems that the Iranians were able to breach the data transmission and correction signal system at the early stage when the missiles were flying, using an inertial guidance system. As a result, the system misdirected the missiles, not toward their intended target, but toward Israel’s own surface-to-air missile batteries, leading to a strike on them."

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"During the Arab-Israeli conflicts of 1970 and 1973, similar jamming techniques were used by both Israeli and Egyptian pilots, as well as Soviet pilots who assisted the Egyptians," he adds.

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[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

I saw a video of their interceptor missiles going after each other and then going to the ground and exploding a little distance away from their launch site. Amazing shit!

[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

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[–] egg1918@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

I wonder how much of it is incompetence/combat stress/fear of the soldiers operating them. I imagine they're not exactly in a clear and calm state of mind

[–] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is this plausible? It sounds like magic to me.

If so, would it be a situation where people would be finding pieces of the bomb and learn it was "friendly fire"?

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I dont know how exactly Iran is able to get anything close enough to the interceptors to jam them but seems feasible. The interceptors will send radio updates to control the missile until it's within near the expected location of the target to begin the search itself - this is called a "data link" system and many aircraft utilise it for missiles that have to track targets at extreme ranges, too.

When the interceptor nears a target I wouldn't be surprised that it could be targeted by jamming, but the videos we've seen include at least 2 interceptors failing immediately after launch and turning towards the ground. Surely the missiles supposedly jamming the interceptors are too far away to give out a strong signal?

Also, I would have assumed the link was encrypted in some way and have some failsafe such as the missile not immediately turning backwards into the ground. That seems like a massive design flaw and would explain why a few other interceptors in the last few years have crashed into Israeli civilians shortly after launch (maybe lost contact with the launcher due to a fault?). In those cases, bystanders found enough fragments to conclude that it was an Israeli interceptor versus an enemy missile.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are the Israeli's silly and made their interceptors talk to GPS satallites directly at launch? Would that be a way to send malicious data into the rocket's guidance system? shrug-outta-hecks

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You wouldnt need GPS for intercepting a ballistic missile (and since some missiles use GPS for terminal guidance, it's common to use GPS jamming to reduce their accuracy).

And even if so, the crux of it is either the missiles themselves are emitting a strong radio signal, or something nearby to the launchers is emitting it.

Could also very well be that the missiles just did that and Iran is claiming they can jam interceptors as a psy op to force intelligence officers to investigate; similar to how Israeli officials claimed they had "Live CCTV feeds" inside Iranian missile bases - super unlikely but would still warrant someone checking to be safe.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

Outside of missiles with cameras that were transmitting that data to a controller/observer... why would the missiles be emmitting RF? Wouldn't communications between a launcher controller and the missile would be one way to try to keep the RF radiation leakage to a minimum?