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A few months ago, we posted a discussion thread about lemmit.online, which resulted in the decision to defederate from it:

https://lemmy.ca/post/38374922

The reasons were given as follows:

It feels actively harmful to lemmy, since so many of the posts it brings over are questions that the original poster will never see. It encourages a conversation that will never happen, so if someone does reply they’re going to feel disengaged.

The bot rarely gets any upvotes or engagement, and I suspect a majority of people (like myself) have just blocked it.

These reasons also apply to lululemmy.com, and so we just defederated from it as well. Same as before, if you were using it and miss it, let us know and we can reconsider.

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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago

As some users have pointed out, the instance has a few other communities which, while empty, do not have this same problem. As such, we've refederated and instead blocked that community.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So this is an entire Lemmy instance dedicated exclusively to one specific brand of clothing, including a mirror of the associated Reddit community?

I guess it's nice that more normal/consumerist hobbies are also making their way here, not just programming and Star Trek.

I'm not sure the comparison to lemmit.online is fair. On lululemmy, only !redditmirror@lululemmy.com is a Reddit mirror. There's also !lululemon@lululemmy.com, though that community has no posts so far, and also a meta community.

Lululemmy appears to me to be more comparable to 50501.chat, which hosts one Reddit mirror (!mirror@50501.chat) but also a bunch of original communities. Blocking the individual mirrored communities seems to be a better option than defederating the entire instance in cases like these.

On PieFed, bot posts are hidden by default, so the only content I see in !mirror@50501.chat is whatever is posted there by humans. If Lemmy supports hiding bot posts I guess that's another potential solution here.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Blocking the individual mirrored communities seems to be a better option than defederating the entire instance in cases like these.

Since the other communities are all completely empty, I felt that it didn't make much difference either way. The instance has been around for some time. However that is true, we could also stay federated and block that individual community to achieve the same outcome.

[–] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think this makes most sense to me, given what the other commenter said. In case people are interested in that brand and want to join those communities that aren't just Reddit mirrors.

That said, I've never even heard of this instance so I'm okay either way.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago

Thank you for the feedback!

We’ve refederated with them, blocked that community, and updated this post :)

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't think a lot of people are going to miss this instance, but it seems fundamentally different from lemmit.online and I don't think it should be defederated on the same basis. More in the spirit of making sure rules are somewhat universally applied than its practical implications. And who knows, maybe a huge Lululemon fan (?) is going to sign up to Lemmy.ca some day in the future - the fact that it does not have a lot of active users as of today seems as an arbitrary reason for defederation imho. :)

Somewhat off topic, I kinda love that Lululemon is one of the first fandoms to spin up their own instance. I would have expected Star Wars and Nintendo fans to create their own instance before fans of (or the company behind?) some seemingly random clothes company.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

That seems reasonable. While I don't expect those other communities to have much traffic, this achieves the same outcome without a full defederation.

We've refederated with them, blocked that community, and updated this post. Thank you for the feedback!

[–] swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago

The bot rarely gets any upvotes or engagement, and I suspect a majority of people (like myself) have just blocked it.

One of the first things I blocked, so +1 for your theory there.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I’m sure Chip Wilson’s incidents during last fall did not help its case.