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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Wait, was there ever any doubt about this?

Oh right, I forgot, half of the US has replaced their brains with 'fell for it again' awards they've been shoving up their noses and into their ears for the last 10 years... so you have to explain basic concepts to them over and over again for there to be any chance of them sinking in.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The claim in the bill is that it helps benefit small businesses. The data is a fact check: the deduction is predominantly beneficial to wealthy people. The fact that most of these “businesses “ have no employees is a strong indicator that they are not “job creators” and are quite likely artificial corporations created to take advantage of tax structure.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I... I know what it literally is.

I am just baffled that anyone would actually need this explained to them, but at the same time, I completely understand that most Americans are not capable of doing basic research and analysis on their own, and are propgandized all to hell.

Like... this was all easily discernible that this is what this particular tax cut would do, back in 2017.

Don't get me wrong, its important to have this on the record... but its the exact same bullshit from Trump's first term, just now they want it to be a 23% deduction instead of 20%.

EDIT: Maybe I am 'biased' as to how obvious this is, in that I have an Econ degree, and also a memory span that extends backwards in time far enough to remember a whole bunch of other people with Econ and Accounting degrees saying this is what this tax cut would do, on national television, in articles, being cited by online commentators, etc.... back when this was being argued over 8 years ago.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The problem is the propaganda. Yes it’s obviously a tax break for the wealthy. However that may be fine according to the propaganda that “it’s to support small businesses, which are the job creators of our economy”. If I believed that, I might support this giveaway to the wealth, so it’s important to not just prove this is a break for the wealthy but that the purported benefit is just not there.

I guess this is somewhat analogous to “trickle down” economics in general where it may be worth it if the claimed benefits were there. However we have huge amounts of proof that’s it’s not the kind of trickling that we want on us

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I completely agree, its just...

My autistic brain just... I can't immediately grasp the idea that most people just do not bother to look into things in detail, most people have no innate drive to... investigate whether or not what they believe is actually correct.

I'm not saying you have to be autistic to want to be factually correct, to want to fully investigate things so as to not believe and repeat bullshit...

But I am saying that my mind just... I always have to consciously step back and go... oh, right, most people are just vibes based, about literally everything, they don't have an automatic 'wait, am i actually correct?' mechanism built in as a check to 99% of what they see and believe.

My brain has analytical logic mode, and... social mode. What actually, mechanistically makes sense, vs... what do most people actually act like?

I can either approach things in either of these two ways, but when I start to try and mix both, I get frustrated by very obvious and apparent hyprocrisies and inconsistencies everywhere, very quickly.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 10 points 2 days ago

Won't somebody please think of the poor millionaires!!

[–] lemmyman@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

This is normally referred to as the "qualified business income" or QBI deduction. Not sure why they used "pass through deduction" here. Because that terminology is easily confused with a different tax break that some states enable called a "pass through entity tax" which lets a business owner pay state income tax from their business and deduct that amount on their (personal) federal return.