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[–] youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Bro if your city has more homicides than car crashes you have bigger problems than traffic.

Then why spend more on cops than metro?

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes, if your city has more homicides than traffic deaths, the bigger problem is—drum roll please—homicides.

But if your city has more traffic deaths than homicides, then traffic is a bigger problem than homicides. Which is the whole point of this post.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Nah. They are problems that should not be compared like that since they are fundamentally different: traffic deaths occur as a risk of travel/mobility. The underlying reason is good/ok. Murders do not have that.

Murders and traffic deaths are usually an order of magnitude or more apart.

[–] youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Comparing car crashes and homicides in this way is a dishonest appeal to emotion. Click bait. Substitute homicides for shark attacks and you’ll see how dumb this article is.

[–] PedestrianError@towns.gay 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

@youCanCallMeDragon @SwingingTheLamp Emotion is what causes people to be more scared of violent crime than the everyday consequences of their transportation choices when cars are much more likely to injure, kill, or sicken them. Data showing how many people are killed by motorists instead of murderers is necessary to help people overcome that emotion and make decisions based on realistic risk assessment.

(Car use is violent crime)

Okay, now imagine the city spending a billion dollars a year on preventing shark attacks, and elections being decided based on the candidates shark policy.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Huh. If traffic is more likely to kill me than violent crime, it's a dishonest emotional reaction to fear traffic more than violent crime?

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. Not choking on henry Ford's dick makes you a liar.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm shocked how many people dont know this.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

The Metro is dangerous. I feel safer driving.

Almost always translate to "I am more scared of the poor than getting in a car crash". Which is honestly fucking wild to me. My biggest concern with public transport is getting sick

my biggest concern with public transport is that there's not enough of it

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I can understand women and trans people being afraid of Metro and other transit, especially if they’ve had bad experiences in the past. It’s more dangerous for some people to be alone in public than others.

Saying that as someone who’s been called slurs on public transit, but also is usually perceived as a fem guy. My biggest concern is definitely still getting sick (N95s every single trip).

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That's a problem with general culture of an area though, not public transit.

It's dangerous for people of those demographics to be alone practically anywhere in public — not just on public transit. It entirely will depend on the local climate, though, with areas that lean more red having a more oppressive culture than elsewhere.

Framing it as "them being afraid of taking transit" paints it as being the problem itself instead of as a consequence of a much larger issue.

Yeah, the problem doesn’t begin and end at the train/bus station. Anyone afraid to be taking Metro alone due to harassment is probably also going to be afraid of walking on the street alone, too, which is also an issue.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Media in the USA has been pro car for a long time. So many sitcoms make taking the bus seem like a horrible experience.

Every. Single. Time.

Every one of their excuses to justify their mentality is just regurgitated propaganda that is intentionally pushed to demonize the poor.

@sharkfucker420 @Davriellelouna Or, "I enjoy trashing the planet but realize that's shameful so I need an excuse."

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's easier to fear things you don't understand.

Yes, I know, it takes about 20 seconds of conversation to get a rough idea of why someone is in the position they're in. That's 20 seconds these people just will not give. It's similar to homophobia, the more you look at it.

Like people don’t realize they drive a tank..

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

but the metro is full of crazy (homeless) people

You think you have to pass a mental health test to get a license? The person driving right next to you could be having a mental breakdown and you wouldn't even know. At least if someone's yelling on the metro I can notice them and switch cars.

The metro is fine. Its full of people goong to work. Sometimes annoying teens.

Sometimes if youre on like the pink line or something at midnight, you'll find a methed up fucker with a knife. The conversation will be so dumb, but youll feel like an ass just telling him to fuck off.

Streets also have unhoused people. They tend to live there.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

This is clear evidence they need more guns.

[–] yessikg@fedia.io 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Aren't car crashes in top 5 of causes of death in the USA?

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago

Top 3 for adults. Top 2 for children.

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago

Don't get in a crash. You'll cause traffic to back up and that's not very considerate. Also you'll get hurt I guess.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 4 points 3 days ago

I mean that's...kind of good....

[–] Davriellelouna@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 5 points 3 days ago

Empty comment for me.