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[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 4 points 5 hours ago

Found https://hexchat.github.io/ in the contributors for ircv3

[–] Carcharodonna@hexbear.net 3 points 5 hours ago

Anyone here familiar with this?: https://polyproto.org/docs/intro/ was mentioned in the article and seems pretty neat, though still in the very early stages.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I find matrix incredibly frustrating. From random messages never loading, to missing messages, to random permission issues between clients. I'd love an alternative. I'm curious about some of these suggestions though, I'll check them out tomorrow. Id love to get off Google chat for my personal comms.

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

as long as youre not uber paranoid/dont need public moderated groups ala a conferencing program like discord, i strongly strongly recommend deltachat, i deleted the account that wrote it but i love this app so much i wrote like a 1k+ word review/advertisement on it a month or 2 ago lol

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 minutes ago

Better to use SimpleX than Deltachat tbh

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 9 points 10 hours ago

Also, I'll be honest, I miss irc and xmpp and jabber. I know they're alive and well, but sometimes I wish irc was what everyone was using still.

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 10 points 11 hours ago

DELTA CHAT MENTIONED RAAHHH lets-fucking-go

delta chat advertisementI unironically really love Deltachat, incredibly easy to set up and use to the point i got my 70+ yo grandma to use it and the encyption never breaks like matrix seems to constantly (at least in my experience anyways. it's not perfect if you're a paranoid bastard because it doesnt have PFS but like i said it's so easy to set up and use that i think it's a worthy tradeoff with how easy it is to make throw away accounts, and if you really need PFS there are web apps that you can use to get that

[–] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 12 hours ago
[–] someone@hexbear.net 28 points 16 hours ago

One thing I never liked about Element is the devs' refusal to put effort into supporting multiple accounts. Now I'm starting to wonder if that was a deliberate choice and not a fundamental technical limitation. Discouraging multiple accounts and effectively forcing people to use one identity for everything is exactly the sort of requirement I'd expect from VCs looking to sell out to advertisers.

[–] corvidenjoyer@hexbear.net 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

How does this effect the hexbear matrix channels?

Not really, to my understanding. Hexbear runs everything off chapo.chat which is mostly unaffected by the matrix.org issue. Obviously, don't use Element and there might be a hard fork in the future but it shouldn't be insurmountable. Matrix still remains a decent protocol despite having an uncertain future and the replacements aren't very promising. (I know polyproto was mentioned but I've seen dozens of Discord-esque chat protocols come and go, and it being a de facto personal project doesn't help.) Defederation with matrix.org might happen as well.