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[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i think businesses are still in charge like always and their plan is still make more money

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

The problem here is that businesses only think about their own needs, and nobody is actually running the nation as a whole. Businesses being in charge is akin to a bunch of cancers running amok and killing the host.

[–] Bubs@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Ah yes, the classic clock marks of

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God, AI slop sucks.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you take a look at who wrote the article, their account was created in the last 13 days and this is their only post.

Make of that what you will, I'll be downvoting and moving on.

[–] Bubs@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 hours ago

Migrated from Lemm.ee lol. Was mostly a lurker there too

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Just a side effect of the end of history, why you gotta be mean about it?

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

Complains about AI (admittedly among many other things)

uses shitty AI image

sighs

not having a plan makes things more fun

[–] lemmie689 9 points 1 day ago
[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

Although this is worse than even I cynically expected, I was certain we were going to end up facing something along these lines, just because I'm Generation X, and we've spent our entire lives wading through the debris and garbage the Boomers have left in their wake every step of the way.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s a spot on article, but I wish they offered some ideas for solutions.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] edel@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Genuine questions, no malice here:

  1. Do you think the solution to what is described in the article is a solution proposed more than a century ago still valid for today's illnesses? How people fell in 1910s, same as today?

  2. Knowing how the world ended in two mayor wards and one hundred million violently killed, wouldn't a solution less incendiary be better? Our weapons today are infinitely more powerful than in 1910s and truly, I see politicians far more willing to use them than in 1960s.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not who you asked, but I'll respond too, as another Marxist-Leninist.

  1. Absolutely. The underlying analysis of capitalism and its evolution into imperialism rings true today, just at a more heightened stage. Central planning continues to be more effective at higher stages of development than market forces, and capitalism continues to centralize and pave the way for this. The working class's strongest weapon, its mass, is still best utilized in unity of direction and action.

  2. The world wars were caused by capitalist imperialism, not socialism. Plus, one thing that's nice, is that the US has hollowed out its own production, it can't support a sustained war. It's a paper tiger, and a unified working class is a force so strong the state can't simply win by bombing us.

[–] edel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is militarily paper tiger, it has been for a while, but it has effectively incapacitated the masses for action (info overload). While in the 1960s they took reign by suppressing news, now the technique is news saturation that paralyses the masses. Also, I see politicians far more trigger-easy with using nuclear weapons if need be than ever since 1950s (ironically not Trump!). It is very worrisome.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

On the contrary, the decay in material conditions has led to increasing radicalization. One only need to look at the unified support for Luigi Mangione to see that people are increasingly jaded with the system.

[–] edel@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am going to disagree here... we are very "radicalized" with words on social media, but, but a few outliers, with more composure in real life. In the past people I perceive (maybe unfounded) were far more spoken when felt disfranchised. Now, I give you that this situation will probably not endure for a decade longer.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

It's all about rate of change, not absolute values. Nothing is static, and the tides move in favor of radicalization as the conditions for radicalization expand.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think human society has fundamentally changed in a century. I think the problems the Bolsheviks dealt with stem from the exact same material relations as the problems we face today. Nobody has proposed a better solution that's been demonstrated to work in the past century that I'm aware of.

Both world wars wore a direct result of capitalism, and had the Europeans not shat the bed after the Soviet revolution, we may have moved past the capitalist stage of development by now. The longer capitalist regimes are allowed to continue to exist the more likely the scenario you fear will come to pass.

[–] edel@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks, I have no read anything from those times so I don't know nor I want to speculate. Now, my fear from what I have observed in the last decade is real. However, living in Asia I did not have that feeling... are they blind there or is just that in the West that we sense the worse is coming.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really can't recommend reading The State and Revolution enough. It is the most lucid explanation of what's currently happening and why. It's a short read and you're going to be surprised how relevant it feels to the current moment. https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/

The dynamics in Asia are indeed different, and China acts as a stabilizing force there. The economies there are hedging against the west, and they're increasingly focusing on trade amongst themselves and the developing world.

[–] edel@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just got that in Audiobook... I have to confess no much into reading non-fictional staff from that long ago but I recognize it may be relevant. I have this and Tepora's The Finnish Civil War for this weekend.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I found this particular book was incredibly eye opening because it clarified a lot of the mechanics of how our system works for me. What I found most shocking was how it's pretty clear exact same types of debates that we're having today regarding reforming the system were happening a century ago. And that goes back to your original question of how relevant this stuff is. If we're still having these same discussions about the same kinds of problems, then we have to inform ourselves on the history of these debates. There is a huge wealth of knowledge and experince that's been built up that's being ignored today.

[–] edel@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Completely agree... yet with a saturation of information available today, it is so hard to dedicate time to events a century old to apply the learning to today's world. Our filters are saturated and clogged and unable to process data efficiently anylonger.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago

I find it helps to develop a mindset of thinking in terms of dynamic systems where you can identify forces acting upon the system and try to understand likely ways the system will evolve as whole. For example, if we're dealing with capitalist relations be it today or a century ago, the forces within the system form an invariant. We have people who own substantial capital and those who do not. Their interests form a contradiction because they are fundamentally opposed to each other. If I'm a business owner then my desire is to minimize my costs an maximize profits, while if I'm a worker selling my labour I want to maximize my salary and benefits. Once we frame the problem in these terms we can try to think about potential resolutions to these contradictions, and that's where historical record becomes informative. If we can identify similar situations in the past, they can inform us on what we can expect going forward.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have an introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list if you want a more structured course, and you find State and Revolution to be too advanced for starting out! But S&R is a banger text, it's included in the course.

[–] edel@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks Cowbee! The audiobooks format is welcome too.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

No problem, enjoy! Feel free to ask questions or make suggestions!