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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

Copyright for voice and faces actually makes sense. Copyright for creative works as it exists is dumb as fuck.

Copyright is nothing more than a system for creating artificial scarcity and monopolies where there is no inherent need for it. Protecting our identities is a genuinely valuable use of that system, stopping artists from sampling and remixing is not.

[–] Winter_Oven@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Applies for a copyright patent for your face.

Gets it, now proceeds to sue you for violating my patent.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The core of the idea is that you own the copyright to your own face.

I don't think anyone is proposing any kind of system that would allow you to hold the copyright of anyone else's face.

Also, copyright != patent.

[–] Winter_Oven@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh no, twas a joke.

Although I didn't know that copyright and patent were not the same.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I know it was meant as a joke, but unfortunately, yes, its kind of based on false premises.

Very, very broadly speaking:

A patent typically pertains to some kind of invention, some kind of unique and novel design of a machine or process.

A copyright typically pertains to some kind of created work, like a song, book, visual artwork.

A trademark typically pertains to a brand name, marketing slogan.

All 3 of these together comprise the category of Intellectual Property, IP Law.

https://copyrightalliance.org/faqs/difference-copyright-patent-trademark/

The actual law on all this stuff is actually extremely esoteric and complicated... and it is probably also worth noting that I am describing and more well versed in US IP law, not that of the Netherlands, which may be substantially different ... I am not Dutch, I don't know much specifically on that, but I did study US IP law back during getting my Poli Sci and Econ degrees.

Again, the entire subject is... exceptionally tedious and complicated lol, I totally do not blame you for not knowing the details, the vast majority of people don't, lol.

[–] Winter_Oven@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

Hmm, interesting.