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This "opinion" was discovered a long time ago: https://youtu.be/cR2KrJTvJgQ

Lol I don't have tattoos, but I can do this for literally everything you have ever liked or enjoyed.

This is one of those "if you think something that doesn't effect you and brings others joy is stupid, you probably need therapy".

That makes him Reagan not Hitler.

Yes, and at that point, both sources will be meaningless in the context of who the most hated president is.

They will also be meaningless because the same polls were not carried out during previous presidencies, so there is nothing to compare them to, nor was there the same information ecosystem.

At present he won't go down as the most hated President of all time in the long run, and if Trump goes down as the most hated president, during his time, it will only be because social media didn't exist during Andrew Jackson's time.

or steal billions.

Yes, billions of dollars was funneled from the US government, to defense contractors like Haliburton, explicitly to prop up the corporations of Bush and his friends like Cheney.

He is responsible for over a million US exes during COVID. over 1.2% of Americans did not survive his first administration and died directly due to his ego.

I mean fair point, but his COVID policy was also a direct reflection of the will of a huge amount of the American public. Fox News has more deaths in their hands because of COVID then Trump does if you want to be honest about the origin of the anti-vax attitude. It certainly didn't start with Trump, though he was in a position to influence change and he didn't.

A historian 30 years from now will see them about the same.

Honestly at this point this is the most rationale take I've seen in this thread.

I think he'll be somewhere between Nixon and Gorbachev, like you said, seen as a scumbag that no one will defend, and someone who made the world worse by breaking longstanding traditions and norms that won't get unbroken, but unlike Nixon and more like Gorbachev I think he'll be seen as someone who inadvertently caused American power and standing in the world to crumble.

So this point will become relevant if the hypothetical scenario you imagine in your head comes true? Great argument.

Yeah, that's why historians examine things through hindsight and evidence not flash polls on CNN designed to get headlines.

Lmfao, are you fucking kidding?

Do you not remember the Iraq and Afghanistan wars? The constant bombing of the middle east and the trillions of dollars wasted over decades?

Lmfao, there not a chance in hell you'd make that argument in real life to a real person.

They would mention the deaths at a single concentration camp, hell they could just mention the deaths from Kristallnacht, and you'd look foolish.