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[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 126 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So now the goalposts are at declaring war on Mexico.

Cool cool.

[–] kiranraine@reddthat.com 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Its been there awhile with these people....I wish I was kidding but they believe Mexico and other countries that way are so evil this is reasonable. Their stereotypes just seem to get more and more crazy that they believe....

[–] thisbenzingring 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Many conservatives think that Mexico is a problem the same way they think that Native American tribes self governance is a problem. The Mexican history is that of the native Mexicans winning out over the Spanish and forming their country and many conservatives are still pissed about the Alamo because they think we should have kept going south in conquest.

[–] kiranraine@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yea which is why I wish it was easier to take them down when they threaten violence to send us into a war. Since I know I can't get things done to show I'm not capable myself for that or a lot of things(the audhd panics and meltdowns are oof with his stressed I stay....). Like the fact they won't believe they're in the minority sucks 😕

[–] thisbenzingring 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also it's fuckin stupid because Mexico is becoming our biggest trading partner. It's beyond the pale stupidity!

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[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Real patriots want to declare war on Mexico then you're not a real patriot. We need more patriots in this country to make America great again. And we'll make them pay for it! Mark my words Mexico will pay for the wall. Some of them are good people too but they will pay for the wall when we win the war. SAD but TRUE.

/s

[–] HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world 106 points 2 years ago (1 children)

DeSantis is a fucking moron.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (3 children)

He's really not, his base is dumb and he plays to them rather effectively but he's not dumb just manipulative and without morality.

[–] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I disagree, he’s dumb and horrible with anything that has to do with economics too. Fascism is a terrible system.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago

I subscribe to the dumb-dumbs can vote for dumb-dumbs theory myself.

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[–] Chalky_Pockets@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree that he manipulates his base.

He's a fucking idiot, that's not negotiable. He does too many things that do not serve the manipulation of his base that are too dumb to excuse. The meatball has no brain.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The Disney thing alone was pure ego. He is definitely dumb.

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[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Americans are dumber than I thought.

[–] ViewSonik@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

That become very obvious in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 & 2023.

[–] kiranraine@reddthat.com 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Our systems are just so unbelievably broken. They gerrymander and destroy other systems to keep themselves in power and its just sick.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We have been far too tolerant of the intolerant for far too long. This is inevitable

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're dumber because lots of them want Trump, but I wouldn't say this makes Americans as a whole dumber because very few of them support DeSantis. He's just throwing random shit out there like this at this point.

[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Sadly, our woefully inept electoral system lets the few dumb ones speak loudly for the rest of us.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Many,not all.

[–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

American Republicans*** Don't lump me in with those assholes.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Idk, I wouldn't call the Russians dumb because they have a fascist leader, it happens to a lot of countries. We were dumb in thinking it couldn't happen here.

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[–] vivavideri@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Does anyone know if he's had like.. significant head trauma at any point?

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

Classic lead poisoning

[–] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If not, perhaps it's time to correct that oversight.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Heisme@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Goal post moving for his base. DeSantis “had to” take federal disaster relief money for the damage to his state caused by Hurricane Idiala(?) making him weak in their eyes(or so he believes). So now to appeal to/appease his sycophants he must promise the possibility of pain, poverty and destruction for those less fortunate.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m sorry, why the fuck are these people allowed to be in politics? He’s openly advocating for war with our neighbor, get this fuckwad out of politics. Let him go fight a war first-hand if he’s so eager to get his dumbass killed. I feel like a requirement for getting into politics should be some sort of political “killswitch”, as soon as you start talking crazy like this, you’re out.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's... that's just great Ron. Hey, ya figure they might shoot back? With their army and navy that they definitely have? Dumb motherfucker.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm starting to think we should shoot missiles at Ron DeSantis

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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)
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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's funky to imagine that a state that was once seen as "purple", generally, would also elect someone was ragingly insane as DeSandurz.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago (5 children)

You can thank gerrymandering and low voter turn out due to gerrymandering for that....

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[–] kiranraine@reddthat.com 9 points 2 years ago

Tbf he's done a lot to disenfranchise those he doesn't agree with or make it harder for them to vote. All bc that side can't believe they're not popular anymore.....

[–] HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

DeSantis is a tyrant.

[–] aggelalex@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

YOoo I guess we're so fucked up that border war and colonialism is back on the table

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the guy who was the JAG at Gitmo during the torture debacle, right? Just checking.

He is the antithesis of ethics.

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We shouldn’t rule out tossing DeSantis into the sun.

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[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

But has the US ruled out using missiles on desantis

Seriously though, look at the terror Ukraine has been able to accomplish inside Russia with a hell of a lot less than what Mexico has. You guys want missiles blowing shit up in San Antonio and phoenix?

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why does Florida have missiles?

[–] ridethisbike@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Outside of any in a military base, he doesn't. It was a question about if he would authorize an aerial attack if he were voted president...

That said... he's an idiot for even thinking that would be a good idea

[–] God@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

How do people see shit like this and then think he is a good choice for president???

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

If he gets elected, Russia is going to have nuclear missles stationed in Florida for use agaisted Cuba.

[–] books@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Let's be honest. He knows he won't use missiles he just knows his base will want him to be ambiguous on it

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Remember when the "Up the Ante" was Scott Walker saying he wanted to build a wall on the border with Canada?

Good times.....

[–] ScaraTera@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't like DeSantis either but if you read the article, the question itself was loaded. I mean the headlines are a slippery slope argument

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