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No evidence that UFOs are aliens — NASA attempts to make conversations about aerial phenomena more scientific::NASA attempts to make conversations about aerial phenomena more scientific.

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[-] qooqie@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Science… making everything boring like usual. Bring back the good ol’ inquisition and the crusades. Let’s spice this shit back up!

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I, for one welcome our Scientific overlords to our BoringEutopia

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

If you think scientific minds would be Eutopian overlords, you've never worked in academia.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

As a child of an academic (although in the humanities), I would never have wanted my father or his colleagues to have been in charge of anything. Half of them were nuts anyway.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

No one should underestimate humanity's ability to ruin everything.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I don't think science is boring at all. I eat up every new thing the Webb Telescope shows us.

[-] GONADS125@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I find it wild that people find explanation uninteresting and boring.. Like, I get that it's exciting to wonder and speculate about things, but I find getting real answers to be the most exciting. Expanding human knowledge is exciting, not boring.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Exactly! I don't get it. Why don't you want to learn new things? It's like they feel that thinking is hard. Maybe that's it?

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[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 30 points 1 year ago

Basically, if you see some shit you need to mention it, because it probably isn't an alien but there are many other important things that it could be. They don't want you or airforce pilots sitting on suspicious sightings because you feel awkward/conspiratorial.

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[-] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Everyone wants X Files but it's just countries spying on each other and military experiments. Anything fantastical like the mummies are news spectacles meant to drum up publicity. There's no reason why aliens would match cartoony depictions made up in science fiction. If actual aliens are here it basically means travelling faster than light is possible.

[-] ours@lemmy.film 12 points 1 year ago

It's likely even more boring than that. These grainy, blurry, IR images are artifacts, birds, balloons, the Moon, commercial aircraft, stars, satellites, and other common things that can look weird from certain angles/perspectives/lenses/sensors.

I'd be super happy to be proven wrong but people really want to believe there's more out there and it's visiting us but I'm going to need more solid proof than some noisy and blurry images and some silly-looking chimera mummies in a box.

[-] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah the vast majority are just artifacts or weather phenomena, and the only material evidence is clearly man made tech. Also when people describe aliens they, big surprise, match depictions in science fiction.

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[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

If actual aliens are here it basically means travelling faster than light is possible.

Not just possible, but dirt cheap, otherwise why would they be constantly dropping down into Earth to see what we're up to.

Really, the whole notion is a bit silly when you think about it rationally. If a society was advanced to the point of cheap FTL (which, I feel the need to point out, isn't just "advanced technology" but "technology that operates in complete defiance to our most fundamental understandings of physics"), why on earth would they be dipping into the actual atmosphere, doing landings, or flying by private aircraft? Surely a society with such breathtaking technology could drop a single spy satellite into orbit and get every piece of info they could possibly want about us, especially now that we're in the digital age.

I have no doubt that alien life of some sort is out there, very possibly it's even prolific (though that doesn't seem to be the case based on our admittedly limited observations of exoplanets), but there's no rational basis for thinking that an advanced alien society would have either the means, nor the motivation, to constantly pop down to earth to screw with pilots, farmers, etc.

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[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

"We don't know what it is there for aliens" makes as much sense as "We don't know where it all comes from therefore God"

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[-] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The thing we aren’t exploring or talking about in mainstream discourse is that UAPs might be terrestrial and non-human.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

No, I'm pretty sure that is both being explored and talked about. People try to find natural explanations for these phenomena. Do you have a specific idea that should be talked about?

[-] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I had a hard time in another thread just convincing people that the subject of UAPs is worth any inquiry at all.

I am just chiming in because I feel that people who dismiss the topic in general will see this headline and say see nothing to see here case closed people who investigate this are crazy.

Whereas the phenomena is still very much present and should be investigated - for national security and aviation safety reasons at the very least.

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[-] GONADS125@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

If anyone is interested, I have posted a very detailed account of evidence supporting the existence of UAP (not aliens).

It contains admissions of their existence by the US government on multiple occasions and throughout multiple decades. I have included footage of UAP confirmed to be valid by our government, and a bunch of declassified government documents on the subject.

I don't rule out the possibility of alien existence in the universe, and I don't rule out that such entities could be responsible for the disruptive/breakthrough technology represented in UAP, but aliens and even the origin of UAP are irrelevant to whether or not the UAP themselves exist.

They do, and I have provided a tremendous amount of evidence supporting this from a rational and skeptical perspective.

And since the topic is being mislabeled as crazy Republicans, I'd like to point out I'm left-leaning and I've also included quotes and documentation of Democrats' support of the topic, including Chuck Schumer and AOC. The truth is there is essentially unanimous support from the right and left in drafting UAP-related legislation. This is not a crazy conspiracy theory. It's not like the anti-vaxxer lunacy. It is reality.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 year ago

UAPs exist obviously. Anything in the air that isn't identified, be it a cloud, a trash bag, a balloon, an enemy aircraft, or aliens. Implying the existence of UAP means anything special though is where things get stupid. We need to get better protocols for calling out there's something unknown just for the safety of pilots, but it doesn't mean anything else.

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[-] Number1SummerJam@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm sorry if this sounds like a conspiracy, but I think that China and the boys are really pushing UFO disclosure on social media to pressure the DOD into releasing classified aeronautics research on hypersonic missiles and specialized military satellites- Check out https://www.darpa.mil/ if you want to read more about what technology the military has currently.

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[-] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Aliens are Qanon:2

Extra-terrestrial are probably real just like the paedophilia and human trafficking... but these people are just using it for attention and division.

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[-] aport@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

Of course UFOs aren't aliens. They are the alien ships, dingus NASA.

[-] Kahlenar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


At a congressional hearing in July, former Pentagon intelligence officer David Grusch testified that the American government has been hiding evidence of crashed UAPs and alien biological specimens.

And the same week NASA’s report came out, Mexican lawmakers were shown by journalist Jaime Maussan two tiny, 1,000-year-old bodies that he claimed were the remains of “non-human” beings.

Some sightings represent surveillance operations by foreign powers, which is why the US military considers this a national security issue.

The authors note the importance of reducing the stigma that can cause both military and commercial pilots to feel that they cannot freely report sightings.

Spergel said the study team’s goal was to characterize the hay—or the mundane phenomena— and subtract it to find the needle, or the potentially exciting discovery.

He noted that artificial intelligence can help researchers comb through massive datasets to find rare, anomalous phenomena.


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[-] Pogbom@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Usually this bot is great but this is a pretty big one to miss:

And the same week NASA’s report came out, Mexican lawmakers were shown by journalist Jaime Maussan two tiny, 1,000-year-old bodies that he claimed were the remains of “non-human” beings. Scientists have called this claim fraudulent and say the mummies may have been looted from gravesites in Peru.

[-] willis936@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

AI efforts aspire to reach the accuracy of Portal 2's Fact Sphere.

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