Gaming

Not hating on people who like and enjoy PvP games, but to me it feels like it's a good way for a developer to make a game that doesn't actually have that much substance. Lacking content? Nothing to actually do in the game? NPCs are difficult to make interesting to fight? Just have players shoot each other. It's basically content that creates itself, not to mention (if you have good matchmaking) the difficulty ramps up naturally without you having to write better enemy AI.

I just want to fight stuff alongside other people, rather than potentially making another person's day just a little worse because I shot them before they shot me, you know? Is that too much to ask?

I think for me, the main frustration is the way those games are structured. You run around for a few minutes and when you finally have decent equipment, someone shoots you out of nowhere and you get kicked out, have to requeue and start over again.

On the other hand, when I die in Overwatch, Valorant, Counter Strike, Quake, Unreal Tournament (yes, I'm old...) I know that I'll be back in the action in a few seconds, I didn't lose much progress and I can still win this.

BRs are a game type that sounds awesome to me on paper but I never end up actually enjoying. Too much time with nothing happening with it all to just abruptly end. It's a cool idea I think. Just not for me

Most competitive games stresses me out. I have probably 1k hours in WoT and WoWS. I know I should be enjoying the small moments and not worry about winning as much, but I just can't do it.

Yeah, online competitive games just feel like I'm sitting an exam nowadays. I can do without the stress.

Also it feels like you spend ages running around in an empty field with nothing happening interspersed with seconds of not that great shooting gameplay

That's just kind of how I ended up being with anything competitive honestly, especially if it's a huge time sink, which battle royale games tend to be. Even CSGO's "Danger Zone" mode can take like half an hour with just 18 people.

I've found myself missing some of the older shooters I played as a teen like Black Ops II, MW2, Battlefield 3, etc. They're still "competitive" in a sense, but you're not playing for nearly as much as you are in Apex Legends or Fortnite. Plus the matches aren't overly long and you can rejoin the action in seconds depending on the mode. And if you leave a deathmatch, you aren't really losing a whole lot of progress. Pretty much 5 - 10 minutes worth as opposed to 30 minutes to an hour sometimes.

You need cozy game time. It’s not good to add a lot of stress in the pursuit of entertainment! If it doesn’t bring you joy it’s not worth your time. I’m looking at you, League of Legends.

If you enjoyed apex except for the high stakes format, check out titanfall 2. There's a community made client called northstar which fixes EAstrash servers and offers mods/silly game modes and customization

I dunno how much skill they take.

I can't stand competitive multiplayer. But I'm not very good at paying games. It seems to take me more than twice as long as people say it should to finish most games (I do tend to try and do everything I can on my first play through).

That said I tried playing Elden Ring multiplayer, helping people beat bosses, and that was a surprisingly wholesome experience.

Come to the bayou and play Hunt Showdown you’ll never leave

I personally love Apex, but I understand where you're coming from. I saw another person comment this, but I think it is important to highlight again: games should be fun. If you're not having fun, perhaps you should take a step back and evaluate whether or not it's helpful or if you're truly still enjoying it or playing for other reasons.

For me it's more the fact that if you don't play almost everyday, you get absolutely destroyed by people who do.

I agree, I avoid PvP games and turn of any PvP element in games that allow that. Singleplayer games and MMO's that focus on PvE (even in group situations) are just a lot more fun for me. I like multiplayer games as long as you are not actively working against each other.

Recently I participated in the RuneScape 3 fresh start worlds and went for a top 100 spot on the Agility hiscores. And I just notice that I start spending way too much time on the game when I try to compete with other players.

Steep learning curve, having to wait to join a match in order to play, and not having time to just enjoy the world are my big turnoffs. I would love to run around a PUBG map with just like AI bandits and some animals

Yeah, that's why prefer to avoid PvP games. I'm not good, tbf, and the stress I'm feeling is just too much to handle - my real life is stressful enough, thank you very much...
For example, I would love to experience Sea of Thieves on my own, finding some treasures, fighting skeletons or the Kraken. But the PvP aspect is killing it for me. I'm not entitled to anything, of course. Plenty of people wouldn't enjoy a pure PvE Sea of Thieves, but as far as I'm concerned, that kind of game would bring me back for sure...

Don't like them. Deathmatch is more fun, and is even better with some Quad Damage

I generally have the same feeling with online FPS games. I used to play Battlefield 3, 4 & 1 a lot. Eventually I realize those games are so intense, and I'd get tired so easily. They still sounds fun to play but I don't want to deal with the intensiveness, the competitiveness of the game so I never come back, but they still are good games.

Those games seem like they're for the hyper competitive types, and that's just not me. Back when I was in high school in the late 90s we would play the original team fortress over the lan in the computer lab. The best part about it for me was trying to come up with funny things to say in the chat.

I feel the same about PvP in games in general. I just wanna vibe, maybe hang out with friends, and the sweat that comes from going against other people actively detracts from that.

I played Tarkov for a solid 3 or 4 months. The game itself is beautiful and raw. It's got the best weapon modification system I've ever seen. The sounds are top tier, especially when you consider the realistic differences the headsets to muffle or amplify sounds.

The downfall is the other players. The net code sucks so bad and the cheaters are rampant. The game suffers a lot for this. The reason most battle royals have high TTK is because losing instantly to someone is a terrible feeling, so to prevent this you have a ton of health and shields to at least give you a fighting chance.

Tarkov doesn't give a shit about that. You can spend 15 mins putting your kit together and loading into a raid just to be one tapped by a rat with a mosin shooting SNB. All that work into putting your kit together is wasted and now you've just donated your kit to wherever loots your body.

The SPTarkov mod is the greatest thing to ever happen to Tarkov because it got rid of the worst part of it: the other players.

Yeah I really don't enjoy them

I've been playing some Fortnite with friends. It's mainly us getting trashed and messing with people.

I found taking it much less seriously increases the fun, but that's just me. Apex is another animal in regards to play style. I can't play it.

it's annoying to me in the same one that multiplayer became popular back in like 2013. Every game wanted to be the next Call of Duty so they shoehorned Multiplayer into any and all games. Tomb Raider, Assassin's Creed, Last of Us, Uncharted. every game HAD to have multiplayer. In the same sense, every game is trying to capitalize on the Battle Royale craze because it will get plays and they'll have a quick revenue source