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こんにちは!

私はカナダ人です。

1月から、私は日本語をべんきょうしています。すぐ日本へいくつもりですから。

このコミュニティでしつもんしなもいいですか。

私はことばとかんじをべんきょうしなければいけません。たすけがひつようです。

よろしくおねがいします。

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[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

しつもんがあります。

I learned that using 「〜なければいけません」means "must do". But literally what does ければいけません mean? I only know to use this "formula" to say that I must do something. We weren't really told that in our classes.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

なければ is the negated subjunctive of ある, so very literally it means something like "if this isn't the case/doesn't happen/doesn't come to pass". It's not easy to translate.

いけません literally means "cannot go/work".

So what you're saying is "if this doesn't happen (/if I don't do this), it won't do (so I have to do it)".

Edit: Oh and don't expect every grammatical pattern to have a translation that makes sense. Some of them you just need to memorise.

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Haha, wow! I knew it sounded like a double negation situation, and it seemed oddly complicated.

But as you said, sometimes in Japanese you can't overthink it. Just memorize.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Native speakers of any language are prone to miss this, but a lot of grammar makes no sense! For example, "I must" translates to "〜なければならない" but "I have to" which means the same thing would literally be "〜持つ(possess) へ (to)". To a Japanese person, it doesn't makes sense that "must" and "have to" mean the same thing.

So, a lot of times, it's best just to go with the flow and not to worry about the little things.

[–] emb@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

That's a tricky construction, I always forget what it is. When it came up in the textbook, I mostly used the shorter form. I could remember なきゃ but not the whole なければいけません thing. The abbreviations are much more casual though, it sounds like. Here's the Tae Kim page on it.

[–] DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Cyborganismさん。

JapaneseLanguageへようこそ!よろしくおねがいします。

日本語は たのしいですよ。私は 10年間 べんきょうしています。でもまだ たのしいです!がんばってください。

日本に ひっこし(move)ますか?りょこう(travel)しますか?どうぞ 日本を たのしんでください!

あと 一つの こと:

「たすけが ひつようです」は OKですが、「みなさんの きょうりょく(assistance)を おねがいします」はパーフェクトです!

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 3 points 6 months ago

DigitalAudioさん、

よろしくおねがいします!

九月日本へりょうこうするつもりです。また、日本でともだちがあります。毎年、ともだちにてがみを書いて。(e-メーリルじゃないです。)

ああ!アドバイスありがとう!

[–] emb@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

初めまして!

I'm probably not well versed enough to answer most questions, but I'm glad to see someone asking! Reading through these kinds of discussions is usually educational, but also a good motivator and reminder.

Question for you. I was able to follow most of the post text, but this bit I didn't understand:

たすけがひつようです。

What are those words? (I know I could just look it up, but it feels more human to have the conversation.)

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 2 points 6 months ago

たすけ means help. が that the topic marking particle, but I bet you know that. ひつよう です means "is needed"

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

はじめまして! 僕も(日系)カナディアンです。 沖縄で通訳をしています。 日本語でわからないことがあればなんでも聞いてください!

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 1 points 5 months ago

よろしく! ありがとう!