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[–] emb@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Like with many things, I think the most important part is that it's fun and motivating for you. If you find an approach you gel with that gets you to engage with the language, then good! There's no best or most efficient way for everybody, no use endlessly searching for that.

Input > Output makes sense on at some level tho, at least to me. To do output, you need to have a good feedback loop so you know if you're hilariously wrong. Without it, you run the risk of building bad habits that may be harder to correct later.

It's a bit of a swing back from traditional classroom setting learning, which are (more so) output and grammar early. Notably, those settings have teachers and classmates for feedback.

The Japanese community in particular is laregly self-learners I guess. And having lots of kanji to learn and words with often unguessable readings pushes a lot of folks there to perhaps over focus on memorization.

[–] emb@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think one could read it passively. I'd imagine some students getting it assigned and just going through it as fast as possible to get the gist. I also don't think always there's a very clear difference between literature and casual reads.

But overall I agree, print encourages a more active approach by making self-paced the default. Leaves plenty of opportunities for meta-cognition. Audio can too tho, just depends how people engage.

[–] emb@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Yep, I was just about to plug the !books@lemmy.world community too.

It's nice to see how much engagement they get on the weekly threads! They've got a yearly bingo thing going on too, which is fun if you're trying to read more. And just all around it seems like a nice place to share your reviews/thoughts or ask for recommendations.

[–] emb@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

For the most part, yeah.

It's definitely possible to read passively. You know, how sometimes the words just sound out in your head while you're lost in some other thoughts. And it's possible to sit quietly with headphones and actively listen, poring over every word while nothing distracts your focus.

But by default, I think the modes encourage active and passive engagement like you're getting at.

[–] emb@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This is one area where I think the distinction is actually important!

For kids, they're learning to read. Heavy, repeated practice decoding and interpreting printed characters is the point.

Ultimately the activity of reading changes as you get older, into receiving new information and perspectives. At that point an audiobook is pretty much at parity. But earlier on in elementary and even middle grades, kids really need the actual reading IMO.

I have a relative who vastly prefers audiobooks. But his wife has to keep reminding him, don't let their daughter take that shortcut. She has to actually learn to read (and read well) first.

[–] emb@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

That's how I always think about it too. Imagine telling someone "I jogged all the way to the store". Assuming it's more than a mile away, that might be a little surprising. If the person then says, "well I biked, but same point, I got there", it's a slightly different reaction. "I jogged" and "I biked" are two different things with different meanings.

Not that it should be looked down on or it's bad at all.

I guess there's a gap in the language a bit. There's not a great sounding word (afaik) to indicate 'consuming a book in whatever format', so it's understandable that 'read' evolves into that. Still, in most cases to me it makes more sense to choose between 'read' and 'listened'.

[–] emb@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Love Ikaruga, but always struggled to really improve at it.

Feels like the first 2 or 3 chapters are breezy, then at level 4 or 5 I'm just continuously credit feeding.

[–] emb@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Good book! If you're interested in game history or id, definitely give it a read.

[–] emb@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Some options at various levels:

  • Take the phone app off your home screen
  • Uninstall the mobile app
  • Make sure it's not in your Firefox address bar's suggested sites or bookmark toolbar
  • Log out on every platform when you're done looking at it, so there's even more friction to checking it
  • Make a post there announcing you won't use it any more, possibly why, and share better places people can keep in touch with you. (Then stop using it with any regularity)
  • Help your immediate family (or friend group) setup a group chat on some other platform, and share updates with each other there

Individually making good choices is nice, but even better if you can help other people leave it behind.

[–] emb@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I appreciate your empirical approach!

Easy to see how folks jump from XBL is down to assuming content servers are down. But from your spot checks, sounds like it's spotty reporting, to an extent.

What was the login screen you hit all about?

[–] emb@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Unplugging the network probably would not help, if you have a disc that needs a newer firmware than what's installed.

I don't connect my consoles online unless I get forced to, and I've run across it a couple times on Xbox One. Never bought into the Series line tho, so can't say if it's different these days.

And yeah, as far as current issue, I'd expect the headline is probably exaggerating.

[–] emb@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Depends on a couple factors:

  • Will the game play without a firmware update?
  • Will the game play without a game update? (deliberate gate, or by presence of game-breaking bugs)
  • Even if previously updated, does the game arbitrarily enforce a persistent connection?

The first one is usually the catch. On Xbox, you have to download the firmware update, it's not on disc like Nintendo and PlayStation. If you haven't updated your system in a while, you usually can't play newer games. (MS has/had a workaround for this, where you could download firmware from their website and install it via flashdrive. It's something, but still weak for needing Internet.)

Needing a game update happens semi-commonly too, but it's certainly the exception. Something like 80+% of games probably play fine without one, even on Xbox.

Single player games forcing you online all the time is pretty rare, but happens. Some especially spiteful, incompetent, or cloud-brained pubs will do it from time to time.

 

Hope everyone has made good progress this week. Either way, tell us about it!

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/48786886

I've always been interested in learning other languages so it'd be cool to get some recommendations. So far, I've come to like Me!Me!Me! by Teddyloid, the instrumental for Headbanger by Baby Metal, J'en Ai Marre by Alizee, and Yuve Yuve Yu by The HU.

 

Sorry for the late post, was off on vacation for a bit.

Have you all kept learning this week?

 

It's that time of the week. How are you doing?

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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by emb@lemmy.world to c/fgc@lemmy.world
 

This character, 令 looks one way in text/font, and in my RTK book.

But Jisho has a little animation that shows stroke order, and the bottom element here looks completely different in that hand-written version. Still two strokes, but a different resulting shape.

The same applies to other kanji that build from it, like 冷, 零, etc.

What's the story? Is one or the other source wrong, has the character been updated to a new form, or do I just have wrong fonts?

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