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[–] obsidianfoxxy7870@lemmy.blahaj.zone 99 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Also coming from the guy that refuses to swaer in a Democratic who won a special election.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Thinking about it, that's probably the scariest but at the moment as far as our chances of getting out of this.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 4 months ago

to avoid the epstein files.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 59 points 4 months ago

So the shutdown continuing is your fault you silly johnson. Own it. It's yours.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I keep getting emails from the rep from my area. Keeps blaming liberals for this shutdown because they want to supply Healthcare to immigrants. Has a survey question at the bottom. "Should liberals agree to the terms and end the shutdown". Big fat "nope" from me.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 4 months ago

instant block the email addresses.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Correct me if I’m wrong, but he doesn’t need to negotiate with Democrats. Republicans have the majority and could pass it on their own if it was reasonable.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 4 months ago (4 children)

You are incorrect. Reps hold a majority, but not a supermajority. They would need sixty votes to pass a budget and end the shutdown, and only hold fifty three seats.

[–] cmac@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Can't the Senate pass it under the budget reconciliation process with a simple majority?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 4 months ago

they used it for the BBB, of which the current news cycle is distracting it from.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

...but they only get to use that card once, and they already burned it.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They could also remove the filibuster

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How does that get them more votes?

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

They can then pass this with a simple majority.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

I believe there is a limit to the number of times they can use the reconciliation process between doing the current process.

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

They could, however, change the procedural rules that require 60 votes with a simple majority.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 4 months ago

the gop is so short sighted, they wanted a shutdown but dint have enough seats to end it, meaning its a impulsive thing.

[–] fodderoh@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes and no. That is true in the House. And the Republicans have passed a version of the bill in the House. The Senate, OTOH, requires 60 votes for a measure to pass. So they need at least 7 votes from non-GOP members to pass anything.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The article is about Mike Johnson and the house.

[–] fodderoh@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In the narrowest reading of the article, maybe. But as I said the House already passed their bill. It is in the Senate's hands now. But since the Senate requires a supermajority, they need some level of Dem support to pass it. And since anything the Senate passes would have to go back to the House for reconciliation, House leadership is very much involved in those negotiations (or lack thereof) since they would have to line up support in their own chamber. And that is what the article is talking about. Not just the House, but the negotiations as a whole and Johnson's part in it. (Or refusal to participate as seems to be the case.)

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 4 months ago

isnt MTG also voting against him, ?

[–] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

He has the votes to pass it in the house, it's more so the senate Republicans who have to negotiate with the senate Democrats to pass it.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 4 months ago

yes, but they need a narrative to not be the ones at fault for shutting it down.

[–] Bloodyhog@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

So, can the serial bankrupt businessman bankrupt a country? Sure that would be the big beautiful bankruptcy this time!

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

how many votes do we need to get rid of Mikey J?

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What parts of the government are still operating and getting paid? Let me guess, military and police?

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Aren't police paid by the state or city etc, rather than the federal government?

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

You have FBI, DEA, Secret Service, and of course ICE which are all federal.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I have no idea but law enforcement and military don't just stop doing the job because Congress shuts down. So...if those groups still function, and everything else stops, would republicans care? The stuff they value most still operates.

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 4 points 4 months ago

They're up against a payday cliff. 1st and 15th for military IIRC.

There are several reasons to end a government shutdown prior to your security not being paid. Imagine all the ICE bullshit brigades not getting paid.

They kinda painted themselves in.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

The federal armed forces will run out of money to pay people soon. Those ICE losers shouldn't be paid anyways so fine with me

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 4 months ago

mike closeted johnson, pedaling trumps message is actually making people more likely to read up on the epstein files.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

In other words, they're flailing and a deal is coming shortly.

[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

They really don't want the public to have proof the pedophile currently stinking up the white house is a pedophile...

[–] blave@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

lol, keep cunting, cunt!