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submitted 11 months ago by Liforra@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

My cat has been shitting infront of the litterbox for a while now but the strange thing is, its always on the same place, and she still does shit in the letterbox, but also outside.

Many days i wake up and stand in shit and its been so annoying

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[-] Spuddaccino@reddthat.com 20 points 11 months ago

Make sure your litter box is clean, and that your cat thinks it's clean. Cats want to be able to bury their waste, and if there's too much in the box for the cat's liking, they'll go somewhere else, and it's often right outside the box if there isn't something else they could use. It's important to understand that it's the cat's opinion that matters here, not yours: you may need to scoop it every day, even if there's only a little in it.

You may also need to move the litter box and clean the previous area, including and most importantly the place outside the litter box that gets used. Use vinegar if you can: it has a strong smell that cats don't like, but it won't hurt them like bleach can. Lemon juice works well for this, also. What this will do is make sure that this area doesn't smell like a place they have used as a litter box before.

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Use vinegar if you can: it has a strong smell that cats don’t like, but it won’t hurt them like bleach can. Lemon juice works well for this, also.

Might try peroxide. It has no smell, as it breaks down rapidly into water and oxygen gas. It oxidizes waste compounds and destroys bacterial cells. It's the main active ingredient in commercial pet urine stain removers.

[-] Nemo@midwest.social 2 points 11 months ago

hydrogen peroxide, right?

just checking

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah, benzoyl peroxide acne cream isn't gonna help you very much here.

[-] Nemo@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago

bruh I don't know your life

[-] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

This is generally good advice but I’d use https://us.feliway.com/products/feliway-classic-spray-60ml?variant=33417856155783 (If it’s available in your region) to spray on the spots instead of vinegar. Cats don’t typically eliminate where they’ve scent marked, and the spray is full of marking pheromones from their feet.

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

So does that mean peroxide to remove the waste scents and then later this to discourage the associations?

We have an 'ongoing' problem and having some fresh ideas is great!

[-] Liforra@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Ill possibly try that, thank you

[-] marshadow@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

When cats shit outside the box, they’re trying to communicate something. Unfortunately they don’t speak English and sometimes resort to speaking Catshittese.

Are there enough boxes? You should have n+1 litter boxes, where n is the number of cats in the home. Also they should be scooped two or three times a day (before work, after work, and bedtime is a good routine). The litter should be about 3”/8cm deep: they need enough to bury their piss and shit, but too deep feels unsteady beneath their feet.

Is she a really big cat? She might want a bigger box. I once had a big fuckoff tabby who needed jumbo boxes with extra-high sides.

Maybe she’s having digestive pains. Does her shit look normal? If not, put the misplaced turd in a zipper baggy and have your vet check it out.

It could also be an emotional issue, like loneliness or anxiety or dominance, but make sure the litter boxes and digestive health are all in order before deciding that’s what’s up.

[-] Liforra@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Unfortunately we can't have more litterboxes currently, we rn have one for that one cat, but when we have a bigger flat it might be possible

Her shit is normal

[-] marshadow@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Totally understandable. When I lived in a small place, I only had room for one box, so I got the biggest thing that would fit and scooped as often as possible.

That reminds me, some cats are picky about litter too, just like some humans will only wipe their ass with certain brands of toilet paper. So it’s good to find a brand they like and stick with it, but I know how hard it is to experiment when there’s only room for one box.

[-] Liforra@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

We know that she doesnt like every litter, but this litter has been working for probably like 14-16 years, i dont think that changed. But thanks for the suggestion :)

[-] Pandemanium@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

14-16 years

Is that how old the cat is? If so, it's probably arthritis. Mine is about that age and has problems squatting. It could be that she has trouble getting in and out of the box, or she's inside but standing too close to the edge and not squatting enough. You could try a supplement or ask your vet. Mine offers monthly injections for arthritis.

[-] Liforra@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, 16, the thing with the too close to the edge is 100% impossible, its not JUST outside the box, its like a tiny bit further away, enough that it can't work, but ill try some suggestions regarding her mavye not being able to go over it

[-] Aevironis@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Cats are quirky and can have many reasons to do that. If she is an older cat she may have arthritis and the walls of the box could be high for her to easily get over. Some cats hate covered litter boxes. If you changed litter brands recently she may not like the texture or smell. The box could be too small; I bought a large metal litterbox for mine before they quit peeing over the sides on the wall.

Emotional issues can cause outside box use too: new pet, roommate, someone moved out. All can have an effect.

Feliway has a pheromone spray or diffuser you can use that is supposed to help with issues like urinating outside the box which may help with the poop problem. Another brand called Comfort Zone has a "spray and scratch" that's slightly cheaper.

If the vinegar or peroxide that others recommended to clean the potty spot don't seem to do the trick, then you can buy an enzyme cleaner like Nonscents "stain and odor eliminator" to see if that will work.

[-] Liforra@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the suggestions, i will definetly try the vinegar like the others have reccommended, but if that doesnt work ill try that :)

[-] snap@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Have you seen the cat take a shit outside the box? How close is the shit to the box? My cat sometimes craps outside the box but it is just due to him not walking far enough into the box before squatting, so his ass is sticking out. The poop ends up just outside the door or smeared on the lip.

[-] Liforra@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

its too far away for that, it seems intentional

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Have you tried a larger litter box? Are you cleaning the box regularly?

[-] Liforra@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

1st, no but 2nd Yes every day usually

[-] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago

I'd also advise a larger litter box. I used to have this problem with my giant tom cat (he weighed 17lbs not obese!), but never with my little Siamese. Got a larger box that the big guy was more comfortable using and never had the problem again

[-] ji88aja88a@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I have 2 kitties and this happened all the time. I had to introduce a third litter box for it to stop happening. And as others have said, clean them out every day. #poofreefloor

[-] Zippy@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Typically I would show dominance by taking my own shit in front of the box.

[-] BulkyBag@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

What kind of car does the cat drive? Maybe its time for a new clutch?

[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

It's also possible she doesn't realize she's missing the box... we had an older cat that started doing this... she would get all her feet in the box, squat and shit on the floor right next to the box, then try to bury it. Got her a bigger box with slightly higher sides (still low enough she could easily access), and it fixed the issue

[-] Liforra@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Nope, too far from the box and someone already saw her doing it outside

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Yup, it's not their fault they have stormtrooper aim - they literally can't see what they're doing

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Is your cat declawed? Sometimes cats that are declawed might not want to use the litter box. It's one of the problems with declawing.

Declawing cats is a horrible practice and should never be done.

[-] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

How bad does her shit smell? My cat has Inflammatory Bowl Disease. When she has a flare up, her shit smells absolutely horrific, she strains a lot, and poop often ends up outside the litterbox.

The other suggestions in this thread are great. I'd add take her to the vet and explain the situation. Also see if they can express her anal glands. My cat also had massively clogged anal glands which didn't help anything.

Good luck.

[-] Emberlynx@lemmy.one 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

We had this problem recently; we took her to the vet because we thought it was a medical issue, but they found nothing wrong with her. Instead, they said it seemed like she was depressed and anxious, so they gave her a prescription for a teeny tiny cat-sized dose of Prozac every night, and it totally cleared the issue up. Turns out she was just really down a lot and didn't know how else to communicate it to us.

[-] MadEarl@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Our 16 year old cat with worn out hip joints started doing the same a while ago. A much bigger litterbox solved the problem.

[-] Liforra@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

the cat is about the same age so i might consider that

[-] Researchgrant@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Already some good suggestions about making the litterbox way cleaner than your human senses would be able to appreciate. But I was just wondering if your cat is a tortoise shell? Seems to be a common behavior in those quirky girls.

[-] room_raccoon@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

I would also recommend that if you know there is going to be kitty poop in front of the litter box then you should avoid standing in it

[-] zerbey@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Maybe try changing her litter? Sounds like she doesn't like it.

[-] davi@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

in addition to what others have said: this is also a classic symptom of territorial insecurity so maybe there's a stray cat spraying the outsides of the walls of your home.

[-] Liforra@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

That is also indeed the case, i didn't think those were related but a cat is being really really annoying, trying to fight with her

[-] Tagger@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Buy a second smaller litter box and put it where she keeps shitting and then, once she is used to it, slowly move it into the normal litter box.

[-] Liforra@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Unfortunately not possible unless i wanna stand in the litterbox

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