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Do they have any rule that says you need a minimum number of users on a site to fall under the law?

If servers of someinstance.co.au fine if they move to hosting in Finland?

It just feels like a nightmare.

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[–] Skavau@piefed.social 39 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Apparently aussie.zone is asking users to DM evidence of being over 16, and the implication is that of those who don't - he'll ban/delete their accounts.

But absurdly enough, 4chan is exempt from this because all activity on there is anonymous. Not through accounts. So if the Fediverse had anonymous, non-account posting on-top of regular account-based posting then people could post anonymously happily, but anyone with an account would have to verify.

Make it make sense.

[–] fancy-straw-simple@piefed.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh, apparently their attempt at following the law is pretty ridiculous. https://aussie.zone/post/27246692

[–] shems@piefed.social 18 points 2 weeks ago

I’d say their attempt is actually better than what the government came up with. I also thought the idea of chatting with a bot that guesses your age was pretty funny.

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

pretty ridiculous

In the good way, yes. Who was it the admin of a Lemmy instance, I think, who said he would receive alcohol as a form of ID verification because to even acquire it legally in the first place you have to be of age, anyway? That's pretty much golden and incentivizes the local economy!

[–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Local? They'd be getting alcohol from all around the world :D

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well, they'd be supporting their local businesses for that I'd hope!

[–] fancy-straw-simple@piefed.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But I can still access Aussie.zone communities from my pieced.ca account, right?

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 19 points 2 weeks ago
[–] hanrahan@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

But absurdly enough, 4chan is exempt from this because all activity on there is anonymous.

Don't think that's it, it has no footprint in Australia. Meta, &Google, X etal all do, same as piefed.social, lemmy.world etal have no Australian base. aussie.socal users can just move to another server. I'm an Aussie.

Similarly UK has tried to get 4chan, kiwifarms etc but they have no UK footprint so they just ignore them.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Similarly UK has tried to get 4chan, kiwifarms etc but they have no UK footprint so they just ignore them.

No, that's a matter of enforcement. UK is still trying to fine 4chan - but failing. Australia has just outright said the law doesn't apply to them.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/oct/09/4chan-not-blocked-australia-under-16s-social-media-ban

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I saw someone earlier say it was on the basis of anonymity…people don’t actually have ‘accounts’, so there’s nothing to verify. How accurate that is I don’t know and I’ve never used 4chan.

[–] mtpender@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't give them anything, that instance is run by the worst parts of r/australia. They cannot be trusted.

[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

yes you should be very weary of sending someone a photo you took while driving a car that doesn't inlcue your face /s

[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

4chan is exempt from this because all activity on there is anonymous

So, the politicians' concern is that kids will say dumb stuff on the internet, and it will haunt them for the rest of their life?

[–] sleen@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Wow more fascists inviting themselves in places they are not invited.

[–] mtpender@piefed.social 21 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

To my fellow Aussies:

The social media ban works through DNS, just change your DNS to either 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 in your router settings and browser setting. I've had no problems so far, but if that doesn't work you can always use TOR or another VPN service.

[–] serpineslair@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Quad9 is also a great provider for privacy: 9.9.9.9 ... In case you want to avoid google and cloudflare.

[–] mtpender@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's also a good choice, there are others too. I would suggest to everyone look around for a good generic DNS provider.

[–] shems@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

wait, it actually works through dns?

[–] mtpender@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah.

So far, changing my DNS has worked fine for me. I've had no requests of ID from any of the socials.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, it's account based, in a lot of cases changing your DNS won't change the server you end up with at Youtubes or whoever

Age-restricted platforms are expected to take reasonable steps to:

  • find existing accounts held by under-16s, and deactivate or remove those accounts

  • prevent under-16s from opening new accounts

  • prevent workarounds that may allow under-16s to bypass the restrictions

  • have processes to correct errors if someone is mistakenly missed by or included in the restrictions, so no one’s account is removed unfairly.


Does every Australian now have to prove their age to use social media?

For example, if someone has had an account since Facebook started in Australia in 2006, Meta could reasonably assume they are older than 16 so no further check is needed.

https://www.esafety.gov.au/about-us/industry-regulation/social-media-age-restrictions/faqs

Platforms then use a variety of signal's to detect if someone is under 16:

DNS has nothing to do with it

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

changing the DNS works when the site has been banned for not complying, is how I understood.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

there's no banning or blocking of social media sites

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[–] e0qdk@reddthat.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

On reddthat, we got this notice in an announcement back in March 2025:

Age Restriction

Effective immediately everyone on Reddthat needs to be 18 years old and futher interaction on the platform confirms you are over the age of 18 and agree with these terms.

If you are under the age of 18 you will need to delete your account under Settings

This has also been outlined in our signup form that has been updated around the start of February.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

March? Over 18?

Reddthat presumably was reacting to the Online Safety ACT UK there.

[–] e0qdk@reddthat.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We discussed it in the community posts back in Dec 2024 when the law passed -- February is when the sign up change happened and March was when the announcement went up. The UK's bullshit may be what prompted the announcement happening then though.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but what I mean is that wasn't a reaction to Australia here. Since your threshold here is 18, not 16.

[–] e0qdk@reddthat.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

reddthat is an instance hosted in Australia; so the answer to "how will the ban affect it" is "we already have an age limit in place". That's my point.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

Fair enough.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Doesn't there have to be a certain number of users for this to apply to them? I could have sworn I saw it had to be over 50,000.

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