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[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Switched to Tuta myself, Proton CEO sucks.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 hours ago

You don't even need to dislike them because of that. There has never been any indication that their VPN is private and their record of turning over customer data proves that.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 hours ago

How do u get past the 6 month deletion for inactive accounts? I've lost my account like that and stupidly I had banks and social media on it. I never check emails, but I need an email address to reset a password if need be. Funnily now I can't reset passwords :`(

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 16 hours ago

More like: ■■■■ ■■■ is the CEO of Proton AG

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Proton CEO Andy Yen is a libertarian tech bro who supports Trump. Tech bros are a societal cancer, willing to kill the many to benefit the few.

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 7 points 12 hours ago

A great Medium article on the topic that analyzes the entire situation: (coming to the conclusion that no, Proton does not really seem to be in favor of Trump/MAGA at all given their actual actions, and how the original statement was misinterpreted)

https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

Comment reposted from https://piefed.social/comment/8747739

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 35 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I was also offended by his anti democrat tweet but its a stretch to call him pro trump. There is a medium article going over his politics in the last decade and its pretty much entirely liberal left.

[–] Best_Jeanist@discuss.online 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] andronicus@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Do you have any other sources beyond this one tweet (the very same one the poster you replied to mentioned)?

I'm genuinely curious, because I haven't heard much about him beyond that

[–] Best_Jeanist@discuss.online 8 points 15 hours ago

Proton’s official Reddit account posted a now-deleted comment stating that “Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.”

Within hours, Proton deleted its response across social media accounts, stating that the post — which started with the words “Here is our official response” — was in fact “removed because it was not actually an official statement.” The reply went on to say: “Our policy is that official accounts cannot be used to express personal political opinions. If it happens by mistake, we correct it as soon as we notice it.”

https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/

I sure hope someone was fired for that blunder!

(he wasn't)

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

This article goes over both sides. I was super pissed off at Andy's tweet and response but hes not MAGA for it. The problem I had was that he was dumb enough not to be 100% opposed to Trump and dumb enough to try and give him the benefit of the doubt.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Benefit of doubt for hitler is pretty nazi.

[–] Someone8765210932@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's almost 2026 and people are still acting as if we don't already know that you can not give any of them the "benefit of the doubt".

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

No such thing as neutral on a moving train. Holding still is going right. A little jog in place is woke. Running for a better life, is, well... antifascist. (Howard Zinn had a little essay collection?)

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 1 points 10 hours ago

... ..... (ee i ee i oh.)

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 9 hours ago

No. That line of logic falls for me. There are plenty of things we've given the benefit of the doubt that we don't cosign or believe in even hitler. I'm not willing to write someone off as being MAGA because they said a positive thing about Trumps FCC pick. He doesnt need to be MAGA for that tweet to be a bad thing.

I am willing to lose trust in him for being stupid and thinking Lina Khan was a worse FCC chair when hes suppose to be an expert in this industry.

[–] andronicus@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

Do you have any other sources beyond the one tweet bandied about to back this up?

I don't disagree with your statement, I'm just genuinely curious because I haven't heard much about his personal politics beyond that

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for the info. In not thrilled with proton mail but moved because it was supposedly better. I won't be sticking around

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 1 points 12 hours ago

A great Medium article on the topic that analyzes the entire situation: (coming to the conclusion that no, Proton does not really seem to be in favor of Trump/MAGA at all given their actual actions, and how the original statement was misinterpreted)

https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

Comment reposted from https://piefed.social/comment/8747739

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

■■■ Proton ■■■■■■■ ~~donated~~ gave praise ■■■■ to ■■■■ Trump.

I use the whole suite and pay for it ever year because theyre the best competitor to Google, but Proton isn't one of the "good" ones and I wouldn't trust them to contest a subpoena or install a backdoor, either

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 2 points 12 hours ago

A great Medium article on the topic that analyzes the entire situation: (coming to the conclusion that no, Proton does not really seem to be in favor of Trump/MAGA at all given their actual actions, and how the original statement was misinterpreted)

https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

Comment reposted from https://piefed.social/comment/8747739

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

■■■ Proton ■■■■■■■ donated ■■■■ to ■■■■ Trump.

Did they? I know one of their CEOs was pro-Trump, but the organization as a whole spoke out against having any political affiliation. Do you have a source for their donation to Trump?

[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

If one or more of the guys making the most money at proton is pro-trump and makes donations, isn't that the same thing as the company doing it? Like if Willy Wonka funded rainforest restoration, buying his chocolate is directly supporting the rainforest regardless of if it's the factory or the CEO doing it.

In an age where corporations and the rich are literally destroying the world, I think it's reasonable for people to greatly weigh the political byproduct of their purchases. Proton doesn't seem to care about privacy or improving the world or being a good company, they seemingly just care about making enough money through catering to the privacy crowd. For me, going non-google isn't to hurt Google it's to support smaller owned businesses who also want to support smaller owned businesses and their community.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems like youre right, I must've got my headlines mixed up. Can't find anything saying they donated but their CEO coming out immediately with praise is an awful thing regardless, IMO

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Spotify were the ones who donated

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Didn’t they ban a Journalist at the request of a Cybersecurity council ?

[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember it being some kind of "mistake" that they "fixed" once it made the news, but yeah. 😑

Exactly, they revert back when they saw the public uproar.

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 21 points 1 day ago

a redaction joke from trump supporters.

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[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I opted for FastMail over Proton because fuck Protonmail's CEO. With FastMail, I'm blissfully ignorant of their politics. (ruin it for me if needed.)

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

A great Medium article on the topic that analyzes the entire situation: (coming to the conclusion that no, Proton does not really seem to be in favor of Trump/MAGA at all given their actual actions, and how the original statement was misinterpreted)

https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

Comment reposted from https://piefed.social/comment/8747739

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

So it got Richard Gere'd.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 14 points 1 day ago

And neither would Proton...