We need to respect all the victims and pursue the best justice we can. Investigate and document everything and everyone. Verifiable facts. Real law. Interviews of defendants and victims. Documents, photos, videos. Broadcast it all live.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Netanyahu is the Prime Minister, not President. The President is more of a ceremonial role, similar to our Governor General.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The president is also a war criminsl who said there is no innocent Gazans

[–] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

A war criminal is someone we're obligated by law to arrest. We are not obligated by law to arrest the president of Israel (only the prime minister).

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

So Bush was not a war criminal?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That makes him a horrible person. It doesn't make him a war criminal.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

my gosh you're getting downvoted even though you're right, it's left on left violence!

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

"Why is Hitler a war criminal he didn't pull any of the triggers"

He's literally the head of state of a country doing a genocide.

[–] Ilandar@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

Hitler was put on the United Nations War Crimes Commission's first list of war criminals in December 1944, after determining that Hitler could be held criminally responsible for the acts of the Nazis in occupied countries. By March 1945, at least seven indictments had been filed against him.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hitler was actually the one ordering it. That's Netanyahu's role in Israel. The President is more like our Governor General, or the King. A largely ceremonial role.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lmao

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry I don't follow. Could you elaborate?

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

cmon man surely you know lemmy by now?

Could you elaborate?

Israel bad. that's literally it.

I can't believe you haven't picked this up seeing some of the most brain dead responses I've got

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Israel bad

Well, yes. That's true.

And Israel's president is, by all accounts, also a terrible person.

But he's a terrible person with limited powers. Not like Israel's Prime Minister, or America's President.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

No I'm saying Lemmy users aren't smart, you are, but most Lemmy users are on par with Trump supporters, single minded, one eyed:

post says thing I disagree with, downvote >:| - average lemmy user

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

Ahhh, thank you. I had no idea.

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

These people are committing a genocide! And we're inviting their head of State here?? What the actual fuck is wrong with us!

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 11 points 3 days ago

For people wishing to contact the Prime Minister with your thoughts this is the communication channel indicated,

https://www.pm.gov.au/webform/contact_us/confirmation

[–] Muckle@aussie.zone 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What does Israel have to do with the shooting?

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

First, I want to say that yes it was a terrorist attack.

Second, IOF kill kids who carry food just for mere suspecting that they would carry it to Hamas during aid blockade, and that is considered a worse terrorist attack on a besiged starving kid and it was committed by a terrorist war criminal except that this one is paid by US tax dollars instead:

https://virtualjerusalem.com/doing-what-is-needed-post-reporter-on-battling-hamas-face-to-face-in-gaza/

Thirdly: That hanuka event group were collecting funds for the IDF and funds to support illegal settlements in west bank and genocide in gaza.

I will leave their official website here for you to read their direct listings and invovlements with IOF throughout the genocide:

https://www.chabad.org/news/article_cdo/aid/6213019/jewish/From-North-to-South-IDF-Soldiers-at-War-Celebrate-Chanukah.htm

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/804034/jewish/How-Do-I-Explain-Israels-Actions.htm

Rabbi Schlanger and associated efforts, has solicited and collected donations to support IDF soldiers:

https://x.com/tweetbix/status/2002240656765604066

https://x.com/tweetbix/status/2003022630576877594

https://xcancel.com/PeterWMurphy1/status/2002248128922333281

https://xcancel.com/PeterWMurphy1/status/2001639687002427771

https://xcancel.com/OunkaOnX/status/2001640164192399841

Last thing I want to say: Regardless of all that proof showing that these people were literally collecting aid to commit genocide and aid ethnic cleansing.. I still would call 15 unsuspecting people killed a terrorist attack, and so is the dosens of terrorist attacks by IOF killing 400+ in Gaza since ceasefire alone.p

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Because the UN has declared him a War Criminal.

Hopefully, he is arrested and sent to The Hague.

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone 1 points 17 hours ago

A self appointed inexpert panel that did no investigation and has no power said that.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because the UN has declared him a War Criminal.

Wrong Israeli. The President has been invited, not Netanyahu, who's the Prime Minister.

I agree with Fleur's and Gorgritch's comments that we shouldn't invite someone who represents a genocidal regime to the country, but he won't be arrested because he isn't himself a war criminal any more than Sam Mostyn could be considered a war criminal if Australia were committing an ongoing genocide.

[–] zero_gravitas@aussie.zone 8 points 3 days ago

... he isn’t himself a war criminal any more than Sam Mostyn could be considered a war criminal if Australia were committing an ongoing genocide.

Herzog isn't subject to an arrest warrant by the ICC (Netanyahu and Gallant are), but it's at least arguable he's a criminal under international law for incitement to genocide. Remarks by him form part of the evidence in the ICJ case: https://www.icj-cij.org/node/203447

I think even in the absence of such remarks you could make the argument it's Herzog's responsibility (or Mostyn's, hypothetically) under international law to use the powers available to him to remove the government to prevent genocide.

But yeah, as you say, the statement "the UN has declared him a War Criminal" is factually incorrect in that there's been no finding or warrant against him as an individual.

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Why exactly! As soon as he steps off the plane he will be acting to divide this nation to the benefit of his own. This is an Australian tragedy, no matter the outside influences of the actors themselves we are talking about Australians. It would cost Labor politically, but he should not be allowed entry.

Edit: Wrote this comment before reading, they fuckin invited him!!