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[–] Roberto@toast.ooo 34 points 2 years ago

And yet here I am with a six minute video of something that I could've read in thirty seconds.

[–] PR_freak@vlemmy.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Why is he saying he would like to see a federated approach?

With federation there is no monetization, no centralized analytics, no centralized control over content. All things meta strives for

[–] Gsus4@lemmy.one 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What I read before is that the plan was for facebook to introduce cheap instance hosting at the expense of making it a "franchise" they can control, monetize, monitor...somewhere between a self-hosted instance and a reddit sub.

[–] PR_freak@vlemmy.net 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So basically the worst from reddit (controlled, monetized, monitored) and the worst of lemmy (server instance handling and costs) lmao

Good luck with that

[–] shinjiikarus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Additionally: While spez’s reasoning isn’t sound on the matter, it IS true, that user generated content is highly valuable to AI firms. With ChatGPT out the door, we shouldn’t expect anything to be written after a date a few years back to be written by a human. But this means these data sources aren’t “clear” from generating a feedback loop: If every conversation is potentially three chat bots in a trenchcoat the fourth chat bot learning from that could be of a reduced quality. Therefore every AI firm (of which Facebook is regrettably one) needs to think about how to farm user generated content. I don’t think Zuck wants to be in the cloud business of hosting instances, at least not primarily. On the one hand he is a reliable business partner for regimes all around the world and “moderating” federated instances is a way to keep this business, on the other hand this will help Facebook to gain access to user generated conversation, and more important: potentially block competitor’s access in the future.

[–] phillycodehound@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't trust Zuck with anything. But the fears that he's going to take over the Fediverse are unfounded.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I wouldn’t underestimate it though… they will try to kill it or own it somehow.

[–] Gsus4@lemmy.one 9 points 2 years ago

Yeah, no kidding. Elon drives things into the ground for his amusement, while Zuck is 3X.

[–] devious@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I dunno, I reckon Spez could give Zuck a run for his money!

[–] MelodiousShark@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'd trust Zuck over Musk but fuck them both. I hope they beat themselves bloody in the cage match.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago

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[–] CodaChroma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

I’ll probably check it out just out of curiosity, I don’t see myself becoming an actual user

[–] Tentaclius@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Two vilains still better than one. Let them fight.

[–] MelodiousShark@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'd trust Zuck over Musk but fuck them both.