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I don't understand how Lemmy.world developers managed to surpass both Lemmy.ml and Beehaw.org instances in user activity.

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[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 137 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy.ml actively asked people to sign up elsewhere. They have a small server and aren't meant to be a general instance.

Lemmy.world is run by people who have one of the larger Mastodon servers, and actively advertises to be open and neutral.

[-] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

It’s also the devs server and they have Lemmy code to write. Can’t be spending time moderating.

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[-] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's also presented as the default on most apps, I believe

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

That’s a big one. People tend to go with the default

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[-] Saturn@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago

I think most of it has to do with that lemmy.world has better hardware than other instances. The admin Rudd has a lot of experience running federated services as well. So it may be his first rodeo lemmy-wise but not hosting a federated service with a large user-base.

So when a lot of smaller instances started getting overwhelmed and stopping signups, lemmy.world was going strong without the performance issues that other instances might see.

That along with the fact that NSFW content is allowed makes lemmy.world a good alternative for Reddit refugees looking for something stable with a similar set of rules as well.

I myself joined lemmy.ml at first, then beehaw.org when lemmy.ml asked everyone to spread out, and finally found home on lemmy.world because I didn’t really like how downvotes are disabled on beehaw. Not to mention the defederation that beehaw has done recently. Although I can understand and appreciate why they’ve done that.

[-] Mereo@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Indeed. Even though I'm using the Lemmy.ca instance to distribute the load, I use Ruud's Mastodon instance.

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[-] lumberjacked@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago

I left Beehaw because the defederated from instances where half my communities were at. Ended up on Lemmy world because they had my favorites.

I started at BeeHaw because they have a lot of cool communities. I didn't want to write an essay (I'm exaggerating ...a little) to sign up for an account so I ended up on sh.itjust.works.

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[-] Shartacus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

At this point I don’t know how I got here and where I’m going and I’m too afraid to ask

[-] Pavidus@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

Why did I create a Lemmy world account as opposed to beehaw or ml? Because it's the first one I saw. Because it doesn't matter. Because I don't know what ml stands for. Because Lenny world said "general use." Because I didn't have to fill out an application. Because I can still interact with everything else, and again, it doesn't matter.

[-] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago
[-] grozzle@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

the national tld for Mali, but the lemmy ml owners chose it for a "Marxist-Leninist" reference. no kidding.

fun fact - they* also deny genocides committed by (even nominally) communist regimes.

*a lot of them, and even those who don't actively, still stick with the goons who do.

[-] sgtlighttree@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Oh dear, and I thought it was somehow related to machine learning/AI stuff

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[-] rimlogger@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

Lemmy.ml is run by tankies who brook no criticism of Russia for its conduct of the war in Ukraine. I was on there, saw posts about the war being deleted and users who raise even pointed criticism at the mods/admins for their Russophilia get banned.

[-] Max_UL@lemmy.pro 12 points 1 year ago

Fun fact: those tankies are also the developers of Lemmy overall… sigh

[-] rimlogger@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

To the developers' credit, it's not like they actively promote their own views on the war and Russia openly. But they don't want others to discuss the war on their instance and have moderated such discussions with a heavy hand.

[-] NightOwl@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the fact that lemmy.world and many other instances exist with content that the devs might not like is proof that they wrote something where their own personal views don't affect the independence of each instance to run the way it wants.

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[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 22 points 1 year ago

The lemmy devs have said they dont bring politics into their dev work and are happy to work with anyone.

Lemmy is also an open source application that can be forked at anytime.

It's also using the activity pub protocol which means that any application can interact with the entire fediverse.

You can use kbin if you are still uncomfortable with lemmy then you can sign up to a kbin instance and view all the content you would view from a lemmy instance.

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[-] shinnoodles@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

Regardless of the how, I think it's really cool that the top instance isn't run by the devs. Really shows off the power and appeal of decentralized services.

[-] Izzy@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Mainly because signups were closed on Lemmy.ml and they were not on Lemmy.world.

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[-] itscozydownhere@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Lemmy.ml are tankies anyway so, good

[-] flamekhan@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

The developer for RIF told me to come here. I figured that I should trust the person that created the app that I've used for hundreds of hours.

[-] GoosLife@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Same. Like the parent of a child grown up, RIF has been forced to let us go, but not without influencing our direction lol

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[-] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Happens when you are one of the few allowing signups while others are blocking them.

[-] wet_squid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

When I had to choose I thought .world means, it‘s the central, most important place to be. Didn‘t know what the other abbreviations meant. Didn‘t care.

[-] reev@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

They're just top Level Domains (TLDs). It's like .com, doesn't mean anything outside of a name usually.

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[-] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

I think lemmy.world js the only one of the three that are still accepting new sign ups.

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[-] Hangglide@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

I am new like most of us. When I signed up I had no idea what an instance was. To me the name Lemmy.world sounded like it was more general and therefore would have more content so I picked that one.

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[-] InTone@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

They weren't selective about who is joining (unless people were absolute douches) and the community is pretty much nice to get along with.

[-] INeedMana@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

When I was joining ~a month ago the situation was very different

I tried lemmy.one - had some issues joining
I saw beehaw.org - no downvotes - not my jam
I saw lemmygrad.ml - too political for my tastes
I saw sopuli.xyz - most of local posts and server maintenance posts were in language I don't speak - maybe I can find something fitting me more?
I saw lemmy.world - small but not looking like private, in Europe, so pings should be ok and description seemed fine
I also saw lemmy.ml - seemed like the main instance with the most users - having some understanding of federation from Mastodon migration I decided to spread the load...

And here we are :D

[-] small44@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

You can't create communities on Beehaw and they are abusing defederation, no wonder it's not growing. I don't know about lemmy.ml

[-] rimlogger@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

How are they abusing defederation? They just want to protect their community from bad actors until Lemmy developers create better mod tools. Plus it is within their right to defederate, that's the beauty of federation.

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[-] Flicsmo@rammy.site 22 points 1 year ago

Beehaw defederates like it's going out of style, Lemmy.ml doesn't allow criticism of the CCP. Lemmy.world seems much more stable and neutral.

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[-] d_ogg@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

When Lemmy.ml was still on top I initially tried to sign up and was unable to. They could not handle the influx when the first migration occurred during the blackout days.

Lemmy.world on the other hand worked just fine.

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[-] SMT42@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me honestly mostly the name. World. Seems like a default instance to me. What does ml even mean?

[-] CrimsonFlash@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

The name absolutely matters. Federation blah blah doesn't matter what instance blah blah and all that.

But regular people will flock to a "normal" or "official" sounding name and url. I won't be surprised if lemmy.world becomes the defacto instance

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[-] notatoad@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

i checked out three or four instances and this one seemed to have the least amount of bullshit to deal with

[-] jcit878@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

in my case I couldn't sign up to ML it just kept timing out. this one didn't.

[-] Quaternions@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I tried to sign up with Beehaw.org, but for some reason it was taking forever. So I came here and joined. TBH, I'm still getting the hang of this whole lemmy. thing. lemmy.world seemed like a good option.

[-] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Both of those instances tend to be fairly censorship heavy, so people who just want to have a chat will be less interested in joining an instance that's going to shut down a conversation that they're enjoying.

Before all this stuff with reddit went down, most of the instances on the threadiverse we're fairly censorship heavy, and so people didn't really bother coming over from the main fediverse. With the establishment of new and more liberal instances and the infusion of new users, the potential of Lemmy has really been unleashed.

I've been really happy to see it.

[-] Darc@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I came here from Apollo for Reddit. There’s a web app called wefwef that is a lemmy client that literally looks and works EXACTLY like Apollo. It even has apollo json import to find similar communities. Anyway, .world is the first server listed in the list so it’s where I registered.

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[-] indomara@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I found a massive table of all the lemmy instances that allowed me to sort by features that were important to me. Does the community allow up/down voting, does it allow NSFW, does it allow porn? How many communities has it defederated with?

lemmy.world ticked all the boxes that were important to me.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I chalk it up to the name. Your name is your central piece of branding, and can be used to your advantage. To me, when I wanted to join what I thought would probably be the largest lemmy instance, I didn't look at the stats or rules. I just looked at the names of all the not-tiny ones. This one clearly signified to me that the owner intends to become a very large Instance.

To most people, it will simply sound cool and be very easy to remember. Both of those are very important points.

Look at the automotive industry. Performance is desirable in a vehicle, certainly, but according to the market, does it seem more desirable than looking cool and having enough cup holders?

[-] Shartacus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

At this point I don’t know how I got here and where I’m going and I’m too afraid to ask

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy.ml had sign ups closed. Behaw required a short story or something to get accepted. Lemmy.world was accepting sign-ups wasn't hosted somewhere shady and had active communities. It was a pretty easy choice. Assuming the admins have a pledge drive or something to host on AWS/GCP so we can get better burst capabilities I'd love to donate.

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[-] GodyGade@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I read several guides that suggested .world, that's it.

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